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For people saying Splitter is also a power forward you are wrong. He is a center. Has always played center in Baskonia and Brazil national team. I never remember him playing at power forward.
I think with the Celtics and Lakers making the Finals the league might be moving away from the stretch four/perimeter fours type lineups. I mean how many starters are there on playoff teams that are stretch fours? Lewis, Jeff Green, maybe Josh Smith since he can handle the ball? Diaw? I understand if teams go small one of Splitter and Duncan will have to come out of the game, but I don't see it being that big of a problem.
For people saying Splitter is also a power forward you are wrong. He is a center. Has always played center in Baskonia and Brazil national team. I never remember him playing at power forward.
Then I'm sure Duncan will be ecstatic to return to the 4 spot
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Most of the decent Spur fans don't bother coming downstairs much. Save the occasional funny topic, the NBA forum is approaching the cesspool status it had when it got shut down a while back...and it's the fault of multiple fan bases, not just one.
Doesn't matter anyways. He's going to sign with the Raptors right?
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I agree the site has changed somewhat. Some posters spend 10x as much of their time on here trolling as they do talking bball. But since Kori and tim have decided not to police it too much, it's just something we gotta deal with it in the NBA Forum.
Despite the super team they are building in Miami, I am still a Spurs fan 100% and hope the Spurs can beat the odds this year by taking out the champion Lakers in the WCF and then the Heat in the Finals.
As for the hate goin on toward the Lakers and Heat... what do you expect?
Both teams are STACKED with talent, and are naturally the front runners for the upcoming season. While the other the 28 teams would LOVE to have as many talented players as the Lakers and Heat, the fact that we DON'T will lead to rooting for the demise of the more talented teams.
Example: I was scared less for the Spurs in 2004 when the Lakers assembled their own dream team of Shaq, Kobe, Malone, Payton and took great pleasure in every Laker loss that year. When they blew it in the Finals, I was on cloud 9. Even though the Spurs had a chance that year to knock them off, like many Spurs fans, I was glad to see that much talent FAIL.
Now there are 2 super teams with the Heat getting a lot of attention, so there is hate directed at both teams, while anti-Laker fans have hope that there is now a team capable of mopping the floor with the Lakers. Fans of the other 28 teams will hope that both teams fail to make the Finals, but if they do make it, those of us that are tired of the Lakers will probably root for Miami.
ON a sidenote: before yesterday, there wasn't much news coming out of the Spurs camp this off season, so what did you expect Spurs fans to talk about if not talk about the Heat?
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I saw the only black guy (who is quicker and he wasn't even a big guy) he went up against block his shot. Splitter looks to have a poor verticle jump (even with a running start) but with his height and arm lengh he can get up on his dunks. He is also dunking on inferior shorter players than what he is going to see in the nba. I did not see much of a perimeter shot in any of these highlights. He will have to develope some type of shot because he will not be getting to the basket for easy dunks like in these video highlights as easily in the nba.
Handles the ball well for a big man and looks to be a good passer. He will work well with Parker cutting to the basket.
I dont expect him to be a good rebounder or shot blocker.
He will be an upgrade from what the spurs had at center last year but temper expectations that he is some type of team savior.
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Great take.
What else do you want people to do? Many have told you that Splitter is pretty mobile and you still say that he isn't.
No one's really argued that he's mobile. Everyone's admitted that he's less mobile than Gasol and that the Spurs have no Odom to put in and guard stretch fours/long threes if necessary. As a matter of fact, people have posted a youtube video that makes a decent athlete like Brendan Haywood look like a better athlete than him.
Have you seen him play? He's pretty mobile, he's definitely mobile enough to play along side Duncan.
Read through the thread.
And good luck with the two center lineup in 2010.
I saw your Brenda video,
He's just a guy. I like the fact that I'm seeing Rick Fox and David Robinson in his mix tape, which goes back almost a decade.
Tiago Splitter will be a markedly better BASKETBALL PLAYER than the guy that just got $55MM for six years from Markie Cuban - a 30 year old guy who I don't believe has a high basketball IQ and on top of that was essentially a non-factor in the playoffs.
Coach Pop can mix and match his lineups pretty well and will get effective play out of Splitter next year.
You're not reading anything in this thread except for this page I guess. Go back and read through it. I dealt with everything you brought up repeatedly already.
You're getting too hung up on the two center thing.
There's enough minutes on the floor to get Duncan and Splitter plenty of minutes in different ways at different times. The Spurs will be better able to go big with many teams in the league. Splitter and Duncan will share the 5 and the 4. Popovich is a fairly smart guy who can make it work.
SA was not a tall team up front last year and Splitter will help a lot in that way.
We Spurs fans are excited about a good prospect coming here next year. Splitter will be effective here very soon in my opinion and a lot of other people share that opinion - including NBA GMs who know a lot more about basketball than you or me.
You are trying to compare Splitter with four players who were first picks in the draft (Sampson, Olajuwon, Robinson, Duncan) which is totally unrealistic. It's obvious he's not in that class. Howevr, he will contribute in SA in a very positive way.
BTW, I suspect the majority of NBA GMs would rather have Splitter on their roster than Haywood.
Last edited by Harry Callahan; 07-10-2010 at 08:31 PM.
I hope you've read through the thread. If not let me repeat myself for the fifth time: I said a few times I don't think Splitter is a bad player, again he would be great on a team like OKC that doesn't already have an all-star center. His athleticism would be fine if he only had to play and guard centers. He will definitely help against certain teams, but if Spurs fans think he and Duncan are going to be on the floor together a lot or most of the time they're in for a big surprise. And even if they do play them together a lot its doomed to failure against any team that goes small. Especially since from what I've seen Splitter can't stay with perimeter fours or make them pay in the low post since by most accounts his post game is decent but not that great.
The only reason I compared Splitter to four number one picks is because those are the only teams that supposedly played two centers together in the same starting lineup (but again Duncan was a power forward his first eight years). Also, I wasn't saying he needed to be in same skill level as those guys but I was saying athletically those guys had some very good athletes in the mix and that's why they could play together. If Splitter was had the foot speed of someone along the likes of Odom or Kenyon Martin this wouldn't be a problem.
Teams like the Knicks in the 80s when they had Bill Cartwright (who once upon a time was a 20 ppg scorer and low post threat http://www.basketball-reference.com/...cartwbi01.html) and Ewing tried starting two centers and it failed and they shipped Cartwright out. And that was in the 80s. Two average athletes that are centers like Splitter and Duncan really can't stay on the floor against a lot of teams in today's league.
Just know, there's probably going to be a lot of games where Splitter only plays 15 minutes a game as Duncan's backup. And since Blair really only played as Duncan's backup for a lot of the year and is too slow to guard a lot of fours as well, I don't know where that puts him either.
All in all you guys got yourself a nice role player imo but not one that's going to make that much of a huge difference except maybe against four or five teams. If you had a gaping hole at center he would make much more of a difference.
Last edited by Zelophehad; 07-10-2010 at 08:54 PM.
I read through the thread - you don't have to repeat yourself again and again.
There's enough minutes to go around for Splitter to be a significant contributor in the Spurs top nine or ten players next year. Duncan will probably play 30-32 minutes per game next year tops. They can go big with Splitter and Duncan for 10-15 and then Splitter can go to the five with Blair or McDyess out there when Duncan's out. Blair, Duncan, and Splitter can pass the ball pretty well too.
Answer this question - do you believe the majority of NBA GMs right now would rather have Tiago Splitter or Brendan Haywood for the next five years?
IMO, Tiago Splitter is a better basketball player than BH if not right now then in the very near future. BH is the Mavericks starting center after he got all the money.
The Mavericks probably got themselves a nice role player as their starting center for the forseeable future.
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