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Last edited by Bruno; 08-25-2012 at 02:50 PM.
hill for him?
Haha. Maybe some of our unguaranteed contracts (Jerrells?) with possibly a 2nd round draft pick or something.
In the FA thread in main forum it's been said that Portland has problems with him + they now have way too many guys at his position.
James Anderson rights + Hairston/Gee for Fernandez!
That is tough because I think Anderson can be a good player. I don't know if Rudy's upside is enough to trade Anderson for, but then again, if you were to tell me the Spurs could get Rudy for essentially the 20th pick before the draft I would have done that without thinking.
Fernandez was touted as the next Manu Ginobili of the league when he was brought over and instead his game has replicated Brent Barry (late Sonic years;early Spur years) at best.
Spurs should give him a look closer to the deadline if things don't pan out so well with Anderson, Hairston and Gee.
Spurs first need to find out what they have in those three players though, most specifically Anderson and Hairston.
absolutely a no brainer IMO.
if Anderson once is as good as Fernandez, Spurs will be pretty lucky.
point is, Fernandez is 25, has experience and proven to be a legit NBA player, who can hit the 3 at a high rate. he could come in and fill Mason's spot immediately. (would even be a huge upgrade over Mason)
Anderson (like all rookies) needs to prove his NBA ability at all. he might not be able to deliver much in the next 2 seasons. he might even turn out to be the next Morris Almond.
but the Spurs will need as much help from the role players as they can get.
Anderson was, by all accounts, a top 15 player in the draft. Almost a lottery pick. I think you have to wait and see what you have in him before doing a trade. I can see your logic, but I think the Spurs should wait it out.
I don't think it is a stretch to think Anderson, with his abilities, can reach at least Rudy's level.
I have a true problem with Fernandez at ude.
He whined to the Spanish press about a lack of playing time and shots and said that he would like to come back home. I could have understand it if he was in the doghouse with Blazers but he played significant minutes with them.
I'm skeptical that he has the mental strength to play under Pop. if Spurs can get on the cheap, why not. If Spurs had to give up Hill or Blair or Anderson or a future first round pick, no thanks.
I see and respect your point.
I was trying to point out what I would do, if I had the chance to get Rudy.
(I have been a big fan from his Euro days).
btw. I think he is much better than what he was able (or willing?) to show last season.
i don't think we should trade for Fernandez because of James Anderson - i like him better for us, i do think we need to make a trade, it's an important year for us, we need to make all to get better, we need to use all our assets for a trade: unguaranteed contracts future first round picks, but not for Fernandez, find other player, rather SF.
With the signing of Wesley Johnson, I don' see what use they have for Fernandez. they are stacked at the G position.
Portand are stacked at the swing, and we could do with one more. I love Rudy's upside, and we absolutely should swing a deal to grab him is possible. It would mean that Manu would have to play quite a bit of SF, but that's fine - he's a good rebounder for his size.
Let's do it. This kid as a jumper and the athleticism we need from the bench
Needed a bump. Consider as extra discussion for the Think Tank.
same as before the bump. I would give a lot to get him.
still the same picture: the most logical and probably only intriguing trade package includes Anderson.
maybe (really only maybe) a package with the 2011 1st rounder and DeColo's rights could get something done, but I doubt it. (Blazers will want a player in return who could play next season).
however, considering the quality gap between Tony, Manu, Hill, RJ and whoever is the next player in the rotation, Rudy would be in fact a great upgrade and provide exactly what we will ask from players, who haven't played a single NBA games combined. (Anderson and Neal)
Rudy Fernandez wants to be a starter and he doesn't want to play in Portland anymore.
Why should we give Portland our 1st pick or any of our players if they want to get rid of him ?
Rudy for a 2nd round pick fine. If they don't want, Portland. Send him back to Europe.
oh well. that much about raising the bar.
btw. players get bashed because they want to start? great.
btw2: a starting line up of Tony-Rudy-RJ looks pretty good, with Manu and Hill from the bench. no problem there.
The big unknown here is James Anderson. If he plays well, I don't think there is a need for us to get Rudy Fernandez.
Never been clear to me why he wants out of Portland.
If it's the lack of playing time, it is likely that he will have even less in the Spurs.
Anderson for Fernandez is a risky but equal trade.
It may boil down to team chemistry. If Fernandez can get back some fire while playing with Manu then maybe it's worth pulling the trigger. However, big IF.
same answer as a few posts back, we won't have found out till mid season, if Anderson is a legit NBA player at all (like is the case with all rookies) and how much help he can provide in the next two seasons. Fernandez is on the market right now and he proved what he can deliver in the NBA. (I still think this was only a small part of what he could do, if he was in the right place).
again, I don't want to say that Anderson might not have the higher ceiling, but in the next two years we can get much more from Fernandez, than we can hope (even in a best case scenario) to get from Anderson.
Report: Bulls in talks for Fernandez
The Oregonian reported Tuesday night that the Bulls are among three teams engaged in trade talks with the Trail Blazers for swingman Rudy Fernandez.
Fernandez, long rumored to be available, also is being linked to talks with the Celtics and Knicks, the paper reported, citing Fernandez's agent, Andy Miller.
The Bulls still are seeking to add outside shooting for their 12th contracted player after witnessing an underwhelming workout from Tracy McGrady on Monday. The Bulls also have had conversations with representatives for shooting guards like Keith Bogans, Roger Mason Jr. and Eddie House, sources previously told the Tribune.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,4190684.story
I would love for the Spurs to get this guy. He seems like a perfect player to slot in at the starting 2 spot.
Having said that, who are the Spurs giving up to get him? The latest rumor is that the Blazers turned down the Bulls' offer of James Johnson, so it seems like the bar has been set at Hill or Blair for the Spurs.
As much as I love Rudy, the primadonna at ude and risk that he returns to Europe are too much to give up either Hill or Blair.
I'm sorry, but no way would I trade James Anderson for him. Anderson doesn't have the at ude issue and he's got much more upside. Younger at that.
The only way I would consider acquiring him would be through Tony Parker, but they'd have to give us Andre Miller and an Oden or Aldridge for that. No way he's a Spur next year.
And for the record, I'm not saying that James Anderson is any better than Rudy Fernandez RIGHT NOW, but for all we know, this guy could be a star and there is nothing proving otherwise.
Parker and McDyess for Camby, Rudy, Miller, and Eli0tt Williams would be fine with me
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