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    Yeah sure, going for a 30 year old pure PF when there is 25 year old pf/c waiting....
    Son it's over for the Mavs....who cares I guess. God bless


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    We'll give Haslem the full MLE, Haywood $65 million, but not take on Al Jefferson for 3/42?

    I'm gonna go take some sleeping pills and go lay down...

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    There are trolls trolling trolls on this board. It's out of control.

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    This would be a bad move..

    The Mavs are arguably 1 or 2 moves away IMO(with their Dust Chip), I don't know what they're waiting for..

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    This would be a bad move..

    The Mavs are arguably 1 or 2 moves away IMO(with their Dust Chip), I don't know what they're waiting for..
    They think Chris Paul is available even though the Hornets hang up on every team asking about him, the Timberwolves are begging to give us Al Jefferson (who fills a need that this team has had since ing 1980), Donnie says they'll let the Dust Chip expire for savings, and they want to give the MLE to Udonis Haslem?

    I want to scream.


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    lol Cuban is butthurt. We are kings. Suck it Cuban.

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    I don't believe the Mavs front office is this stupid..

    They must have more than just a "hunch" about somebody or a good deal being available to them, they must think it's a realistic option, I doubt they would just pass this opportunity up for no reason..

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    I don't believe the Mavs front office is this stupid..

    They must have more than just a "hunch" about somebody or a good deal being available to them, they must think it's a realistic option, I doubt they would just pass this opportunity up for no reason..
    The way it would work with Al Jefferson, he would have to be the third big in the rotation because Haywood would be so pussyhurt about not being the "starter." So he'd be our 6th man getting about 30 minutes a night. I'm sure Cuban does not like the idea of paying $13 million a year for a 6th man, plus the luxury tax implications, but ing come on. Dirk has played with a lot of different players, but he's never played with a back to the basket low-post scorer.

    I have a hard time believing CP3 is available, and even if he is, you have to make sure he's willing to sign an extension.

    It's one thing to not their pants immediately and take the Jefferson trade right off the bat. Ask for a deadline before Minny pulls their offer, make some calls, see what else you can get for the Dust Chip. But if their basic stance is "No way, no how, under no cir stances are we trading Dust for Al Jefferson," then I don't even know where to begin.

    Cuban infuriates me sometimes, he's a billionaire three times over, he treats the Mavs as his expensive toy, he pays out the luxury tax every year, but ever so often, he pulls this cheap act: "I don't want to give Steve Nash 5/50. I don't want to pay $13 million a year for Al Jefferson."

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    We'll give Haslem the full MLE, Haywood $65 million, but not take on Al Jefferson for 3/42?

    I'm gonna go take some sleeping pills and go lay down...
    Good night son....it's going to be okay....not really, just trying to make you feel better. Two possibilities:

    1. This is BS and is being leaked out there by some party for leverage?

    2. Cuban is a moron and is doing this to spite the cHeat

    Hopefully if it's true Haslem doesn't accept it. Only problem is Cuban will likely now offer it to Shaq...or maybe Illgauskis to prevent him from going to Miami lol


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    Utah is about to get in on the bidding for Big Al too.

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    Utah is about to get in on the bidding for Big Al too.
    well doesn't matter since we're out of it


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    I just want this offseason to be over now. I'll just hang onto my irrational hopes that Beaubois plays 30-35 minutes and becomes a superstar and Carlisle doesn't up the rotations like I know he will.

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    The way it would work with Al Jefferson, he would have to be the third big in the rotation because Haywood would be so pussyhurt about not being the "starter." So he'd be our 6th man getting about 30 minutes a night. I'm sure Cuban does not like the idea of paying $13 million a year for a 6th man, plus the luxury tax implications, but ing come on. Dirk has played with a lot of different players, but he's never played with a back to the basket low-post scorer.

    I have a hard time believing CP3 is available, and even if he is, you have to make sure he's willing to sign an extension.

    It's one thing to not their pants immediately and take the Jefferson trade right off the bat. Ask for a deadline before Minny pulls their offer, make some calls, see what else you can get for the Dust Chip. But if their basic stance is "No way, no how, under no cir stances are we trading Dust for Al Jefferson," then I don't even know where to begin.

    Cuban infuriates me sometimes, he's a billionaire three times over, he treats the Mavs as his expensive toy, he pays out the luxury tax every year, but ever so often, he pulls this cheap act: "I don't want to give Steve Nash 5/50. I don't want to pay $13 million a year for Al Jefferson."
    I would say: Just watch the Lakers. And watch what bigmen get this offeason (Gooden, Petro etc). Mavs will need another quality bigmen/center anyway. So whats better, paying Jefferson 13 million as 30+ minutes 6th man or Najera and a Haslem/Petro/Gooden type together 7-8 mio?

    And Jefferson is 25, buy low. Its not even such a age 30+ dead never be able to trade him again contract type like Brand. Let Jefferson bounce back healthy beside Dirk and Kidd and maybe the Hornets will trade Paul in a year (after a trade demand) for Jefferson

    Trade Damp and Najera for him. Then get some 7-0 center for the minimum and you are done. Tell Jefferson to look at Odom in LA. Haywood and Jefferson can bang 30-32 minutes, no need to care about potentially 40min and foultrouble etc.

    Ah and if you want to save money Cuban, just tell Rick to cut Terrys minutes below 20 so he doesnt get his full money next season.

    Cant believe this crap. I will get so pissed if they are not in serious Paul rumors.

    I would love to get Jefferson and Sessions bad contract and dump all that useless bench crap: Najera, Stevenson, Barea and Terry/Carroll. Minny would still save a lot. Well pipe dream.

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    I just want this offseason to be over now. I'll just hang onto my irrational hopes that Beaubois plays 30-35 minutes and becomes a superstar and Carlisle doesn't up the rotations like I know he will.
    Me too, like him as Ellis 2.0 just better and less douchy.

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    I would say: Just watch the Lakers. And watch what bigmen get this offeason (Gooden, Petro etc). Mavs will need another quality bigmen/center anyway. So whats better, paying Jefferson 13 million as 30+ minutes 6th man or Najera and a Haslem/Petro/Gooden type together 7-8 mio?

    And Jefferson is 25, buy low. Its not even such a age 30+ dead never be able to trade him again contract type like Brand. Let Jefferson bounce back healthy beside Dirk and Kidd and maybe the Hornets will trade Paul (after a trade demand) for Jefferson

    Trade Damp and Najera for him. Then get some 7-0 center for the minimum and you are done. Tell Jefferson to look at Odom in LA. Haywood and Jefferson can band 30-32 minutes, no need to care about potentially 40min and foultrouble etc.

    Ah and if you want to save money Cuban, just tell Rick to cut Terrys minutes below 20 so he doesnt get his full money next season.

    Cant believe this crap. I will get so pissed if they are not in serious Paul rumors.

    I would love to get Jefferson and Sessions bad contract and dump all that useless bench crap: Najera, Stevenson, Barea and Terry/Carroll. Minny would still save a lot. Well pipe dream.
    Can you imagine Al Jefferson pounding away at second units when Dirk or Haywood sits? Or operating in the low post while Dirk sets up shop in the high post? Or playing alongside Haywood while Dirk rests? Haywood to protect the rim and block shots, Big Al to run the offense through? I know Jefferson is not a great defender, but they can make this work.

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    Jefferson > Iggy (because he is again more a 3 than a 2).

    If Roddy emerges as a really good scorer consistent scorer Mavs could start Kidd-Roddy-Marion-Dirk-Haywood and then completly destroy oher benches with Terry, Butler as Point Forward and Jefferson...

    If they let the Dust expire or nothing after Jefferson is dealt somewhere else im done with the season allready.

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    I agree about Jefferson..having Haywood on the team means the Mavs would have some versatility in the frontcourt to cover Dirk and Jefferson's(not so much Dirk anymore) flaws defensively against certain teams..then when you go up against other teams, you would have an unstoppable frontcourt offensively..

    Even acquiring Iguodala would be a huge move for the Mavs, he would be a massive upgrade over Butler or Marion on both ends IMO..

    I don't like the Mavs current situation on the wing, they don't have any penetration..

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    Money isn't the concern with Jefferson. Mavs are willing to spend right now. It's his knees and defensive liabilities.

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    I agree about Jefferson..having Haywood on the team means the Mavs would have some versatility in the frontcourt to cover Dirk and Jefferson's(not so much Dirk anymore) flaws defensively against certain teams..then when you go up against other teams, you would have an unstoppable frontcourt offensively..

    Even acquiring Iguodala would be a huge move for the Mavs, he would be a massive upgrade over Butler or Marion on both ends IMO..

    I don't like the Mavs current situation on the wing, they don't have any penetration..
    When Butler wants to, he's a pretty effective penetrator. Problem is he's adopted the Maverick's mindset and just settles for 15-18 foot jumpers.

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    mavs are wasting their time. haslem will sign a one year deal for $4.3 million with the heat. he will do this because he's going to get a "under the table" promise of being resigned to a longer and larger contract next year. heat still own his bird rights. haslem is wade's fisher and the heat won't let him get away.

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    Can the Mavs please just gift us Dirk & Butler please. Thanks in advance.

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    mavs are wasting their time. haslem will sign a one year deal for $4.3 million with the heat. he will do this because he's going to get a "under the table" promise of being resigned to a longer and larger contract next year. heat still own his bird rights. haslem is wade's fisher and the heat won't let him get away.
    With the new CBA, Haslem would be killing himself with that thinking.

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    Money isn't the concern with Jefferson. Mavs are willing to spend right now. It's his knees and defensive liabilities.
    That's fine, but he's 25. Tearing your ACL isn't the death sentence that it used to be, but it takes about two years to come back - one year to get back on the field/court, and then another to get back to where you were when injured.

    I really think the Mavs would be buying real low on Jefferson if all it takes is the DUST chips and late first-rounders. You don't think he might have something to prove if the T-Wolves would rather have Darko than him?

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    There's also the real possibility that Haywood turns into Dampier 2.0 now that he got paid big. Al would be incredibly good insurance if that turns out to be the case.
    People talk about his defensive liability but the guy is only 25 and can score against 90% of the league. Imagine if he had the extra space a guy like dirk can provide.

    And you go for Haslem? smh

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    What does Haslem provide for the Mavs?

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