It's a steal if Ian plays the way folks here think he can.
It's an ok signing if Ian plays the way he did for the Spurs.
Carlisle trusts young players just a tad more than Pop does. It's likely that Cuban got him so they could get the Spurs' playbook.
There won't be a Spurstalk meltdown if he does well, because there were only three or four people that thought he was capable of being anything more than a scrub.
Good news for Ian.
A full LLE deal is 2 years and $4.3M, it allows him to cash in some money. It's also nice for him to get the deal that soon in the summer. It will allow him to play with the FNT where he could get a big role in the likely case of Noah not playing.
Dallas could be a good opportunity for Ian. They have 2 solid starters with Dirk and Haywood but only a 34 years old Najera and a 35 years old Dampier to back them up. I expect Mavs to do more moves in their frontcourt, especially with Dampier, but for the moment Ian is in a good situation playing time wise.
At the end, Spurs decided to let go Ian to re-sign Bonner for 3 times more money. Future will tell us if they were right about that...
I'd hate to let facts get in the way of your usual incoherent, misinformed ramblings, but last year Ian appeared in 26 games for the Spurs... averaging a bit over 6 minutes and collecting 1.2 fouls.
That's still a high fouling rate for sure, but literally speaking 6 fouls would give him 30 mpg
As I understand it the LLE Mahinmi received is $1.8m per year for 2 years, whereas Petro got $3.3m per year for 3 years.
I think Mahinmi has the potential to play much better than Petro, but they aren't comparable. Mahinmi has barely any NBA experience, Petro has already logged over 5k minutes in the regular season + 2 playoff runs with Denver (where he saw little playing time), and he had decent stats in his first 3 years with Seattle (6ppg and 4-5rpg in 18mpg)
I'd agree both are overpaid but this is a sign of the times more than anything. Relatively speaking I'm not too surprised that Petro is getting paid about twice as much as Ian.
Likely indeed.
Well I'm one. We only need 4 more to prove you wrong on that cuont at leastThere won't be a Spurstalk meltdown if he does well, because there were only three or four people that thought he was capable of being anything more than a scrub.
Can't believe I'm standing up for DucksI'd hate to let facts get in the way of your usual incoherent, misinformed ramblings, but last year Ian appeared in 26 games for the Spurs... averaging a bit over 6 minutes and collecting 1.2 fouls.
That's still a high fouling rate for sure, but literally speaking 6 fouls would give him 30 mpg
On paper you're right, but fouls are much less likely to be called in garbage time, which was Ian's scant bread and butter. The guy is incredibly foul-prone.
don't need to wait for the future.
I can tell you right now the Spurs are wrong to bring Bonner back, let alone at that amount, while junking Mahinmi.
The future has already been written.
We will see.
I'm sure Spurs staff and FO is way more knowledgeable than me about basketball. They also have seen a lot of Mahinmi and Bonner.
They can do mistakes but, when I think they are making one, like with Bonner and Mahinmi, I'm cautious and I don't rule out that there is a good chance that I'm the one who is wrong.
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bad news.
Of course with Ian now, Dirk will finally win the ring he deserves.
he's our only small forward at this point.
the only reason I would have any doubts for Mahinmi's future as opposed to the awful that is Bonner's future is Rick Carlisle. Mavs could have won that series if Carlisle hadn't Popped Beaubois.
And we almost certainly would have dropped that series if Ian had guarded Dirk instead of Bonner. Dirk specializes in drawing fouls, man -- it would have been a slaughter.
Doesn't matter if Mahinmi turns out to eventually be a dud (which is highly unlikely since other former Spurs draft choice have turned out to be quite serviceable... i.e. Udrih, Scola etc.)
The truth is Cuban will be able to sign a center that the Spurs invested 3 years to develop for the bargain basement price of the LLE. Furthermore, this allows the Mavs to waive Dampier and save $13m from their payroll.
At worse, this guy this signing would be like the Sean Marks signing where he was giving up information to the compe ion.
This situation without a doubt is a bad development. Blunder by the F.O. to have not taken up the option. Bigger blunder for not giving the player playing time, were they hoping that other organizations would not notice?
The excuses are rolling in already..With Jason Kidd, all you need is some athleticism and you can get easy dunks
Pretty soon the haters will all flat out say Mahinmi wouldn't be without Jason Kidd
So? Didn't matter who was guarding him he was drawing fouls on everyone. At least with Ian guarding there would be no "And-1's" which is a Bonner specialty.
Bonner never was, (and never will be) quick enough to guard 3's
I could see Cuban wanting to develop him just to spite the Spurs. Ian never had luck before but he might have it now.
Mahinmi played well when Pop quit game 5. In fact there was a sequence if I recall correctly where he defended the pick and roll, knocked a ball away, hustled to get it and made the play to get the ball to Hill for a fastbreak score, which was a better sequence than Bonner had the whole series.
So was Robin Lopez until he was in the league a few years and starting getting respect and learning the ropes.Can't believe I'm standing up for Ducks
On paper you're right, but fouls are much less likely to be called in garbage time, which was Ian's scant bread and butter. The guy is incredibly foul-prone.
Anyway who ing cares man. That's what you got a bench for.
Robin Lopez?
You mean that guy who was a foul machine who missed camp with injury? What did he do other than get trust placed in him by a coach and then go on to change the Suns for the better?
If Robin Lopez was on the Spurs he'd be in a sportcoat getting Bonner his towels and gatorade.
Count me as "one of the few". If I recall Senorspur was high on Ian as well.
I could understand why an athletic guard or forward can't get playing time. That's because it takes more skill and IQ to play well at these positions. However for a center?
The Mavs have shown that with an athletic Diop, they used him just to block shots and nothing more. Mahinmi could just jump around and block shots and it'll be a total success.
The problem with the Spurs is they expect their centers to play like Tim Duncan. Which to me is a complete surprise because guys like End of Career Robinson, Nesterovic and Nazr never were that skilled in the offensive end. They were just tall players whose mere presence intimidated the opposition in the paint. Problem with guys like Bonner is that nobody is ever intimidated and its the exact opposite effect, players are encouraged to score.
Yeah... Ian played lights-out, man!
Mahinmi played well when Pop quit game 5. In fact there was a sequence if I recall correctly where he defended the pick and roll, knocked a ball away, hustled to get it and made the play to get the ball to Hill for a fastbreak score, which was a better sequence than Bonner had the whole series.
way to go, deflecting addressing how Ian and Bonner played while mixing in some spilled milk.Yeah... Ian played lights-out, man!
The irrational Ian haters are already trembling after repeatedly boasting all season that he wouldn't even get a minimum salary deal and would have to back to Europe.
Him not being a Spur anymore is worthy of discussion on a Spurs board.
People who can't handle that should just ignore these threads.
For all those Ian haters out there, feast on this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcggbD8EpAM
and what did Sean say in the end?
Me ignoring one nice transition because the rest of his game was lackluster justifies you playing this card? Eat a , buddy
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