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To put things in perspective, Sean loved James White, too.
Sean said "that's the sign of a pretty talented big-man."
What does Sean Elli0t know anyway, he was just a scrub.
To put things in perspective, Sean loved James White, too.
This isn't football.
Spurs and Mavs have seen so much of each other over the years that Cuban probably knows the Spurs sets better than Ian.
It wasn't the X's and O's that snuck up on the Mavs last playoffs - it was the emergence of George Hill.
Ian was signed based on a low risk/high reward viewpoint - not because of playbook knowledge.
For those worried that the mavs see something in Ian that the Spurs don't, please keep in mind that the mavs also thought Erick Dampier was worth $73 million and that Desagana Diop was worthy of the full-MLE.
Ian for the LLE is still clever than Bonner for 4 y / 16 M$
Not only that, they just offered the entire MLE to Haslem...
lol, if not for Dice doing the bulk of the work on Dirk, we would have finished just like in 08-09... If there was a worthless player in the Dallas series, that was Bonner...
Bad comparison.
Avery Johnson "politicked" and "sold" the Mavs on the Dampier signing figuring that "he" could get the best out of him, having been his teammate at Golden State. Obviously it was a failiure, as Dampier was serviceable, but not worth the money and contract they paid him.
Besides, that has nothing at all to do with the fact that Ian is still a promising player, with some good skills, but with virtualy unknown potential.
It's not like the Spurs are stacked with athleticism on the frontline. Dice will likely be gone next year. Who knows what Tim's status will be? That said, the idea of jettisoning a young, talented, frontline player, who can play both ends of the court, without having fully seen what he can do, as a contributing, rotation player, just seems like flawed thinking, IMHO.
Disagree. Ian is not a promising player, he has no skills and his only potential is that he's big an athletic. Just because some team with a poor track record in assessing the value of big men has interest in him doesn't mean that is something other than a draft bust.
You didn't watch his progression close enough. IMO
I watch the same Spur games that everyone else does. Summer league games included. Ian had his chances, it's time to move on.
of course it's time to move on but as a fan who watched every spurs games, don't tell me you wouldn't prefer throwing the LLE for Ian vs. giving a multiple years extension to bonner.
You clearly see some progression that even the Mavs don't see. Signing him for the LLE shows that the Mavs clearly see the POTENTIAL that everybody on here saw. But their other moves clearly show that they are not counting on him for anything.
Dollars to donuts, he spends the early part of the season riding the bench and doesn't see much PT until injuries occur - at which point he will either earn his stripes or be relegated back to garbage duty again.
Mavs are better than nothing, but Ian should go where he can get the most PT.
Actually he did not.
In the 2007-2008 season the Spurs were defending a championship with a front-court of Duncan-Oberto-Horry-Elson (Kurt Thomas)- Bonner. There was no time to develop a young player who has yet to earn his stripes with Popovich.
In 2008-2009 the guy was hurt all year.
This past year he began the season with huge question marks coming back from a long layoff because of his ankle. That being said Popovich didn't give him any real opportunity to grasp a role because Popovich was trying to prepare the players that have earned their stripes for a championship. Any chance Ian got this past season he performed really well.
To say he got his chances is foolish to say.
Not a valid comparison. Matt Bonner is an NBA player, Ian is not.
Good luck to Ian, I just hope he doesn't play well against us
What's foolish is thinking that actual game minutes is the only conceivable way to be able to assess whether or not a player belongs in the NBA. Before you earn a chance in games you've got to earn your chance in practice.
What's even more foolish is thinking that a team in dire need of a legitimate center would use a 1st round pick on one and then deliberately try to sabotage his development.
The Spurs did not have to sign Ian. They could have left him overseas and tracked his development from there, while maintaining control of his draft rights. But they chose not to. They chose to invest in him by giving him an NBA contract. How is that not giving him a chance?
Anyone here will tell you practice means nothing and Pop is stupid.
You couldn't be more wrong. IMO
The guy will be a 8 and 5 and 1 block player in 15-20 minutes if Dampier is not brought back.
Mark it down and bump this in the middle of the year.
The guy is a NBA player and will be ready to contribute.
Duly noted.
You couldn't be more wrong. IMO
The guy will be a 8 and 5 and 1 block player in 15-20 minutes if Dampier is not brought back.
Mark it down and bump this in the middle of the year.
The guy is a NBA player and will be ready to contribute.
You are clearly blind but it is you're opinion so I'll leave it at that.
Spurs practices consist of game-planning and developing wrinkles in their defense and offense, followed by a light shoot around. Spurs don't have the time or the legs to have full fledged practices during the season to assess how players on the bottom of the depth chart fair against the players ahead on the depth chart.
Mahinmi did not get a fair opportunity here with the Spurs.
George Hill and Dejuan Blair seem to have found a way to overcome those obstacles.
You just killed whatever credibility you may have had in making your counterpoint.
Bonner is a scrub.
FYI, no one on this board knows what Ian's ceiling or capabilities are because we never saw him on a regular basis. Personally, I'm not convinced the guy can't play in this league.
Meanwhile, what we do know, and what should be painfully obvious to everyone by now, is Bonner is nothing more than an "end-of-the-bench, scrub". A scrub, who Pop has seemingly fallen madly in love with and now has chosen to grossly overpay. A one-dimensional player, that Pop continues for force-feed minutes in hopes that he can provide some semblance of Horry-like contribution. However unlike Horry, he chokes under pressure.
No, they just so happened to be on Pop's "good-guy" list. Pop is an arrogant, stubborn SOB. If you're not one of his favorites, he's due to ship your ass....on the other hand, if you're one of his pet es, no matter how horrible your game is (i.e. Matty B, Danny Ferry, etc...) you'd continue to get significant minutes.
Mark my word, Minhimi will have his best games of the season against SA. This dude is a baller, and i hope RC gives him his chance to shine....
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