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What's the point of trading for CP3 if they can't get him to agree on an extension?
According to Norm Hitzges on Dallas sports radio station the Ticket, Minnesota offered Ramon Sessions and Al Jefferson for Erick Dampier and JJ Barea. Dallas rejected the offer. Minnesota and Dallas continue to talk.
Norm also says the Mavs are holding out because they are targeting Chris Paul with the DUST chip.
What's the point of trading for CP3 if they can't get him to agree on an extension?
They don't like Jefferson's knees and his contract. We also know how sensitive Haywood can be. Think he'd like to receive a new deal to have a guy come in, play some of his minutes and make $4 million more a year? I know, I know...he should get over it. But it's a reality with his personality.
The Mavs would be taking on a lot of years and money with those deals. Essentially, you're saying this is how they play out the next 3 years of Dirk's career - by having Al Jefferson and Ramon Sessions as the big moves you'd be able to make in that timeframe.
I like Jefferson and Sessions as much as you. I'm just stating how the Mavs are looking at this. They're not that high on Jefferson UNLESS they can shed some of their own crap in return. In that trade, Mavs are getting talent and longer contracts, the Wolves are getting instant savings and the ability to be flexible in the short-term. Mavs want a combination of both, that's why you read about them trying to pawn off guys like Stevenson and Carroll. I think there's a middle ground to be found, but they're being careful with that Dampier Bullet in trying not to waste what could potentially be a franchise-changing move should Paul realistically be available.
I wonder what Dirk thinks...
I can see Carslile being mad at possibly losing his puerto rican wonder...
Wow wtf
I don't think CP3 is available, and even if he was, he seems determined to test free agency in 2012.
lmao mavs. lmao cuban.
Rejecting Kobe for Dirk
Rejecting Davis/Kaman for Kidd
and now this.
If it's true that they are holding out for CP3 then I feel sorry for Mav fans.
They're clueless enough to think they have a shot at him.
They were concerned about Steve Nash's durability and injury history when they decided not to match the Phoenix offer in 2004.
And they are apparently concerned about Al Jefferson's injury history in deciding whether to take on the 3/42 he has left on his contract. That's fine, I have no problem with doing due diligence. Chris Paul had all the meniscus removed from his knee after the injury he suffered this year. There are risks with acquiring him too, and I don't want him for just a two-year rental.
The Reward is greater than the risk though. Sessions is a better back-up for Kidd than JJ and obviously a healthy Jefferson is so much better than Dampier.
A bigman rotation of Dirk/Haywood/Jefferson would be able to compete with the Lakers bigs.
Mark Cuban is the idiot who said PG is the most important position on the team and that having 2-3 quality PG's is a requirement these days.
I guess he missed the part where a Fisher/Farmar/Brown PG lineup has won 2 straight rings.
I'm not sure if it was Hornetfan being delusional or actually having good information, but according to that Hornets fan Ghazi claims is an Indian CP3 had his meniscus repaired and not removed completely (even though Bill Simmons mentioned several times he had it removed). If he did get it removed though no team should touch him with a 10 foot pole.
It's a little weird that teams (not only Dallas) are so concerned with Al Jefferson's ACL surgery. ACL replacements might take 1-2 years to recover from completely, but it's a procedure with a high current day success rate. Al Jefferson's struggles last year had as much to do with him being lost in the triangle as it did his ACL. If not for that ACL injury Al Jefferson wouldn't even be on the trade block right now, he'd be the young big who looked untouchable during 2009.
+1
and a guard rotation of Kidd, Sessions, Beaubois, and Terry is pretty nice as well, with Butler and Marion in between.
It typically takes two years to make it back from an ACL injury - one year to rehab and get back on the court/field, and then another year to shake off the rust and get back to where you were. They would be buying so low on Jefferson.
And what I like about Sessions is that he's basically JJ Barea except about 6 inches taller and doesn't have T-Rex arms. He's shown he can be an explosive scorer that provides a spark (like Barea), he's shown that he can also sometimes to do too much and hurt the team (like Barea), but also proven he's not a completely unathletic midget (not like Barea).
We get the "good Barea" but are spared the majority of the aspects of the "bad Barea".
Beaubois better be Tiny Archibald next season or I'm going to have a breakdown.
Yeah, Dallas should accept this offer.
Suddenly, the Lakers front court length advantage is minimized or even equalized.
oh and CP3 is determined to choose his own destination, he will team up with his buddies to create another le team. That's a fact.
You'd do anything to wipe LA out of the picture. They're the only team with any shot at beating your abomination.
They'll be all over this deal if they can get Minnesota to budge and take back some of the garbage. I'd prefer Stevenson and his deal stay. Take on Carroll or Marion, maybe even JJB and this will go through.
I thought he was already in the deal?
I hear constant reports that him and Carmello want to go to New York to join with Amare. That would make things damn interesting...
CP3/Carmello/Amare vs. Wade/Lebron/Bosh
Yeah that's what I'm saying. It's not like microfracture surgery where you rehab and recover for a year and then pray to god your career isn't ruined. If Jefferson returns to anything like the 2009 Jefferson Minnesota would not have though about trading, then Dallas pulls off a huge steal and has someone to build around once Dirk is gone.
And even last year, Jefferson had respectable numbers, 17 points, 9 rebounds on 50% shooting.
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