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    Yeah, Dallas should accept this offer.

    Suddenly, the Lakers front court length advantage is minimized or even equalized.
    Yeah, CP3 is not going to sign an extension with the Mavs right off the bat. They will have to take their chances that they can resign him in 2012. And the Lakers just won a le with Derek Fisher, so I'm pretty sure that a PG tandem of Kidd/Sessions could do so as well. Their more immediate concerns should be trying to match up with the Laker frontline. Dirk/Haywood/Jefferson gives them a fighting chance.

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    You'd do anything to wipe LA out of the picture. They're the only team with any shot at beating your abomination.
    That makes no sense. If you beat the Lakers, that means you are better than them...how does that help my Heat in any way? Do you mean Matchups?? That's a stretch

    you'd be even BETTER than the Lakers front court.

    (has Dirk ever played SF in any lineups? how has he done?)

    then you would just need a defensive minded SG who can shoot the 3 pter....and you can take out the lakers.

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    tbh has any team in NBA history ever had a raping of a deal like this set before their feet and said "no thanks"?

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    I thought he was already in the deal?
    I was thinking more in combination with JJB. He's not paid a lot and is a minor piece. They'll gladly continue to offer him up if Minny takes another piece of crap back.

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    I'm almost more excited about dumping JJ Barea than I am about getting Al Jefferson.

    This is such a win that I should in the middle of an epic internet meltdown right now, if it weren't for the fact that it doesn't matter because of that bull in Miami.

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    I know we'd have to take him because of his contract, but I wouldn't even want Sessions. I understand he is a nice player, but we already have five point guard sized players (Kidd, Jones, Terry, Roddy, Barea) isn't getting rid of one of them to add a wing a lot smarter? Especially since Minnesota just drafted three wings with size and traded fro Martel Webster.

    The only slimmer of hope in the Mavs strategy is that they know this and are try to get the much improved Corey Brewer or even Martell Webster for the Barea throw in.

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    We're all looking at this from the Mavs fan perspective. Aside from just saying the Mavs front office is "stupid", why aren't they doing this deal right away? Is it the health? The money? Trying to gain even more of an upper hand in the dealings? There's something we're not seeing.

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    We're all looking at this from the Mavs fan perspective. Aside from just saying the Mavs front office is "stupid", why aren't they doing this deal right away? Is it the health? The money? Trying to gain even more of an upper hand in the dealings? There's something we're not seeing.
    No, they're just idiots.

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    I know we'd have to take him because of his contract, but I wouldn't even want Sessions. I understand he is a nice player, but we already have five point guard sized players (Kidd, Jones, Terry, Roddy, Barea) isn't getting rid of one of them to add a wing a lot smarter? Especially since Minnesota just drafted three wings with size and traded fro Martel Webster.

    The only slimmer of hope in the Mavs strategy is that they know this and are try to get the much improved Corey Brewer or even Martell Webster for the Barea throw in.
    I'd climb through the Internet and bone you myself if any lopsided deal included Brewer.

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    Reports say the Mavs and Wolves are still talking, so that's the only thing we have going at this point.

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    I know we'd have to take him because of his contract, but I wouldn't even want Sessions. I understand he is a nice player, but we already have five point guard sized players (Kidd, Jones, Terry, Roddy, Barea) isn't getting rid of one of them to add a wing a lot smarter? Especially since Minnesota just drafted three wings with size and traded fro Martel Webster.

    The only slimmer of hope in the Mavs strategy is that they know this and are try to get the much improved Corey Brewer or even Martell Webster for the Barea throw in.
    No way the Wolves give up Brewer. If there was a way to get him, then that's about the only reason to keep negotiating like this.

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    tbh has any team in NBA history ever had a raping of a deal like this set before their feet and said "no thanks"?

    Tbh this isn't as bad as Danny Ferry rejecting Zydrunas Ilgauskas, their 2011 1st rounder and JJ Hickson for Amare because JJ Hickson was the deal breaker. What makes that trade bad is Cleveland woulda gotten "I want me some max contract" Amare who went into beast mode from February - April and woulda played better in the playoffs as the 2nd option and as a power forward.

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    Reports say the Mavs and Wolves are still talking, so that's the only thing we have going at this point.
    this trade will eventually deconstruct to the point where it ends up being Ryan Hollins for the rights to Shan Foster.

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    Tbh this isn't as bad as Danny Ferry rejecting Zydrunas Ilgauskas, their 2011 1st rounder and JJ Hickson for Amare because JJ Hickson was the deal breaker. What makes that trade bad is Cleveland woulda gotten "I want me some max contract" Amare who went into beast mode from February - April and woulda played better in the playoffs as the 2nd option and as a power forward.
    oh damn I forgot that one. Yeah that's the worst ever.

    Karl Malone Hickson

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    how do you guys manage to stay positive (or feign interest) after this charade?

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    Reports say the Mavs and Wolves are still talking, so that's the only thing we have going at this point.
    Bright side is, it's more Wolves than Mavs talking at this point. If we reach the point of desperation, Minnesota will blink first and panic. Dallas just has to keep in close contact with Minnesota to be sure they REALLY don't want that package before the Wolves offer it to someone else. It's a good relationship right now. I think the offer will still on the table for a while.

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    Well, seeing as how Mark Cuban offered PF Udonis Haslem a $6.6 million per year contract to come to a team that has Dirk on it......coming off the bench in limited minutes......

    all cause he thinks he is playing chess by trying to block the HEAT due to his butthurt....

    I'd say Cuban is an idiot.

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    In fairness to Cleveland, having both Hickson and Jamison instead of Amare was vital though, that way while Jamison was getting worked by KG Hickson could be sitting on the bench for moral support. If they traded for Amare so he and KG could cancel each other out (like they always do whenever they play each other), no one woulda been able to give Amare moral support.

    Great in moral support

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    how do you guys manage to stay positive (or feign interest) after this charade?
    I'm interested because something like this really reveals how this office thinks and operates. It shows how they're viewed by other management groups and how the Mavs try to shake deals in their favor, over time. If they get Jefferson and parts while dumping some garbage, then the Mavs show they can bargain over time to eventually get what they want. If they end up not dealing Dampier because they're holding onto a pipedream and someone else gets the deal for a lesser price, then they've gotten some bad information and held onto their cards for entirely too long.

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    Well, seeing as how Mark Cuban offered PF Udonis Haslem a $6.6 million per year contract to come to a team that has Dirk on it......coming off the bench in limited minutes......

    all cause he thinks he is playing chess by trying to block the HEAT due to his butthurt....

    I'd say Cuban is an idiot.
    Because Haslem wasn't going to come off the bench behind Bosh?

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    Because Haslem wasn't going to come off the bench behind Bosh?

    He would have but it wouldn't have been for 6.6mil. MiamiHeat was saying it's stupid to give a backup PF 6.6mil a year when your starting PF plays close to 40 MPG.

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    Because Haslem wasn't going to come off the bench behind Bosh?
    That's deflecting the topic.

    So it's ok to offer a PF $6.6 million per year to a team that has Dirk on it? Haslem is too small to play C unless you want to get raped on the boards. He can't play SF either.

    So we are talking about ...what? Dirk at C and Haslem at PF? lol.

    Basically, 6.6 mil per year for Haslem to sit on the bench and play 10 minutes.

    lol.

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    He would have but it wouldn't have been for 6.6mil. MiamiHeat was saying it's stupid to give a backup PF 6.6mil a year when your starting PF plays close to 40 MPG.
    yup

    Cuban's haslem offer hurts his franchise. He's not making a move to improve his team, he's making a move to stop the HEAT from getting a player they want.

    That's butthurt. That's not how you run a franchise

    The funniest thing about all of this is that Haslem is about to take a huge home team discount for us

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    they don't like jefferson's knees and his contract. we also know how sensitive haywood can be.
    lol

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    yup

    Cuban's haslem offer hurts his franchise. He's not making a move to improve his team, he's making a move to stop the HEAT from getting a player they want.

    That's butthurt. That's not how you run a franchise

    The funniest thing about all of this is that Haslem is about to take a huge home team discount for us
    Mavs have been saying for a couple weeks now that they're interested in shoring up the backup PF/C position. With the Mahinmi signing, Haslem would be the other part of that puzzle. You're saying he can't back up Dirk? He's a better backup than Najera and will be able to spell Dirk for longer periods this season, allowing him more rest during the regular season. This move, though, will clog up any potential Jefferson deal. I think the Mavs fully expect Haslem to stay with the Heat, but it's not a deal to just with the Heat. Other teams have interest, as well. He's a good player that deserves the minutes.

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