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Bonner>>>>>>Ian
10/10 player?
In comparison, Matt Bonner is a 7/4 player..
Bonner>>>>>>Ian
http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullColumn.php?id=3299
Figured Roddy B played a role in him coming to the Mavs. This is all well and good he can sit the bench and cheer. Now hopefully Cuban wakes up and trades for Al Jefferson
Where do you pull this stuff out of? Mavs aren't promising him anything other than the LLE.
A 10/10 player big starts on over half the teams in the league.
Call it whatever you want. A young, raw, athletic player, who seemingly possesses good skills, along with an ability to score and defend in the low post are tangbile qualities that the Spurs are seemingly in short supply. Combine that with a frontline that is aged and has heavily relied on one HOF player to carry the bulk of the frontcourt load, at both ends, and then you'll know why Ian was an intriguing possibility.
Even with the Splitter deal nearing completion, and looking down the road toward the eventual departures of Dice and perhaps Duncan, and you simply wonder if it getting rid of him was prematurely was the right move? The Fakers and Celtics have reaffirmed the fact that, as much as some coaches are married to the gimmicky "small ball" concept, the games are STILL won and lost in the paint. Teams that win the rebounding battle, usually prevail in the playoffs. You don't win those battles, with slow-footed, "stretch 4s", who can't hit open shots and are are liabilities at defense and rebounding. A team simply cannot have enough talented bigs. And watching Duncan completely get worn down the past 2 postseasons has been proof of that fact.
While no one is proclaiming Ian as the second coming of Moses Malone, the fact is none of us know exactly what he was or could be. Until I see him sucking, as a rotational player on an NBA roster, I'll be intrigued as to how he could've performed here.
Don't worry. You won't see him on a Mavs jersey. He'll always stay on street clothes
re: Mahinmi
only two things will matter when all is said and done...
#1--if Ian proves to be a good nba player--even just a rotation/bench contributor
...then the only thing that will NOT make this a stupid blunder by Pop & RC is;
a) if Bonner has a much better year to justify losing Ian---AND ---his bloated salary
b) if Richards ends up making the team---AND gets a chance to play significant
minutes----AND ends up being a steal and a better player than ian
#2) if Ian sucks as bad or worse than he did with the spurs---even with MORE playing
time---THEN ---the Ian haters can gloat all the want
for the record I think Ian should have been kept OVER bonner---we'll soon find out who knew their
and although I like Ian and wish him well---I would be happy to eat crow to have the spurs headed in the right direction at the expense of Ian sucking
clearly that is a good move becuase tim will retire. and we get make luke walton and draft picks.
luke walton means more tv time with the walton broadcaster a nd the draft picks could be huge.
besides it gives a chance for tim to retire a laker
If he even has an NBA career, of any kind, that last past another season...
Please explain why Dallas should bother to give the Spurs anything in return.
I guess you have to assume the Spurs considered the idea of a S&T with Ian, because it's ridiculous to think they're acting flippantly with roster moves. Maybe the fact that they had to let him walk means that they couldn't find any takers for a S&T. And a S&T doesn't make sense when Ian isn't due much money and a team can sign him outright.
If there's an S&T possibility I'm sure the Spurs would be interested. But in this case it's not. Dallas is over the cap so they would have to send out salary to make the trade work. Dallas obviously isn't going to be interested in a deal where they have to give up a player to get Ian when they can just sign Ian outright. Dallas also probably isn't in the mood to help the Spurs stockpile assets.
Just for your information, since you will now be the fan base hoping and praying he will one day be a steady dose of the flashes he shows.http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/07...n-on-deal.html
What is Cuban doing....offering the fully MLE to Haslem and now this guy???
His first name, Ian, is pronounced "Yawn". And it comes in handy when hearing people around you talk about his "potential" and "upside".
That's more of an indictment against the current state of the league than anything else, but good point.
Still, if Mahinmi's peak is 10/10 (and thats a big IF), I still don't think it's that big of a loss. Frustrating, yes. But for whatever reason, he just wasn't going to put up those numbers here, Pop be damned or not.
In his best D-League season, Ian averaged eight rebounds in just under 30 mpg.
He's not going to get 10 boards a game in the NBA.
More than that. Only 8 guys in the entire NBA put up 10/10 last year. Some pretty familiar names like Duncan, Bosh, Howard and Boozer in there.
Yeah, I thought 10/10 was a bit too much.
I'll give you three reasons.
1. Young athletic big men get multiple opportunities in this league.
2. Players coming from the Spurs organization are highly valued moreso than say, the Clippers or Warriors.
3. Because it's a players market and there are a few teams holding cap space that are carelessly throwing $$$ at free agents players, like it's going out of style. I've already cited, in another post, the ridiculous contract that Johan Petro received in free agency.
I find it hard to believe that the Spurs couldn't have at least garned a pick out Ian.
Point taken.
You gave no reason why DALLAS should trade something for Ian.
this, likely, sums it up.
10/10 goes a lot further than I realized these days.
What is excessive is ridiculous and both Mahinmi's "haters" and "lovers" have been excessive in this thread.
Mahinmi hasn't played enough minutes in the NBA to know how good or bad he is. The best proof of this uncertainty about him is that Spurs' FO has given up on him while Mavs' FO will spend $4.3M on him.
While we all have an opinion about Ian, none of us have seen him enough play to be sure that our evaluation is the right one. You can continue to argue during dozens of pages of whether Ian sucks or rules but it will lead you nowhere. Spurs have given up on him. Future will tell if they were right or wrong. There is really nothing to add at that.
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