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    I'd rather lose him for nothing in free agency.
    I'm not one of these guys expecting a legit superstar + role players/draft picks for TP. But David Kahn's dingleberries could do better than Miller + Bayless + Rudy.

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    I still want to believe that Parker's comments to the newspaper were bluster and positioning for an extension
    I think it was merely a typically blunt Tony Parker response.

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    I doubt there's any validity to this "rumor" ... but if there is, the player the Spurs would want back in such a trade would be Batum. No one else on the Blazers makes much sense at all. Batum, on the other hand, is that defender/three-point shooter the Spurs could use at small forward. (Thinking about it a little further, the Blazers getting Matthews would hypothetically make Batum expendable.)

    If there is any smoke to this fire, it'd be Parker for Batum, Bayless and Przybilla. Przybilla is on the last year of his contract and since he's out long-term with a knee injury, his salary would be covered by insurance. Bayless would mostly be needed to match salaries.

    Would I do this trade? No. Batum could be really good but for the next year or two, the Spurs would be much worse. This trade would basically be waving the white flag on the Duncan era.

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    Ive seen so much lately, all the ridiculous crap. Parker isnt going anywhere. He is staying here and wants to stay.

    But man, after all this Ive come to the point that I actually want him to go, or let me say it this way; I actually wont mind him going. After all the bull and hate he is getting and always got from Spurs fans, he deserves better. Maybe he'll find it with another team.


    these rumors are amusing though
    +1000000000

    That's what I've been thinking for months now!

    what a bad/injured year can do...

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    Would I do this trade? No. Batum could be really good but for the next year or two, the Spurs would be much worse. This trade would basically be waving the white flag on the Duncan era.
    Do you believe the Duncan era is over in two years no matter what?

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    Imo if Tony Parker really wants to be traded then you gotta do it. Having your star PG not being happy is destined for failure and not good for the locker room. It'd be Michael Finley or Roger Mason Jr. x10000 especially since Parker is much more blunt.

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    give brandon roy instead of rudy/miller ......i wwould be willing to trade tony and eva....

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    Any Parker trade to Portland that didn't bring us back at least one of Roy, Batum, or Aldridge would be dumb.

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    Forget about Rudy & Bayless. I want Batum.

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    Amen on Batum.

    Though if TP is indeed traded, I'd probably rather have Bayless, instead of Miller as the PG of the future. Though Miller is an expiring contract, Bayless is younger and cheaper.

    I will reiterate, that in any Portland scenario, Batum MUST be included.

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    I think it was merely a typically blunt Tony Parker response.
    Allow me to expand: I agree with you that he was just being himself and saying how he felt at the time he was asked, but I don't think it means he's absolutely not going to entertain the idea of an extension. I'm sure he knew the Spurs would get wind of what he was saying so he decided to be honest and see what reaction he got out of it.

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    I doubt there's any validity to this "rumor" ... but if there is, the player the Spurs would want back in such a trade would be Batum. No one else on the Blazers makes much sense at all. Batum, on the other hand, is that defender/three-point shooter the Spurs could use at small forward. (Thinking about it a little further, the Blazers getting Matthews would hypothetically make Batum expendable.)

    If there is any smoke to this fire, it'd be Parker for Batum, Bayless and Przybilla. Przybilla is on the last year of his contract and since he's out long-term with a knee injury, his salary would be covered by insurance. Bayless would mostly be needed to match salaries.

    Would I do this trade? No. Batum could be really good but for the next year or two, the Spurs would be much worse. This trade would basically be waving the white flag on the Duncan era.
    1) If you're "waving the white flag on the Duncan era", the team wouldn't also consider Oden as a possible return vice Batum.

    2) While Miller isn't TP, he is a decent enough PG, that we could compete for a championship with him if the other positions were strong enough. I would be extremely surprised with any TP trade that didn't have a starter level PG coming back (or arriving in an immediately associated deal).

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    If there is any smoke to this fire, it'd be Parker for Batum, Bayless and Przybilla. Przybilla is on the last year of his contract and since he's out long-term with a knee injury, his salary would be covered by insurance. Bayless would mostly be needed to match salaries.
    I think Miller would be in the trade instead of Przybilla. Someone has to play the point.

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    Do you believe the Duncan era is over in two years no matter what?
    Probably. Three years is probably the max.

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    Allow me to expand: I agree with you that he was just being himself and saying how he felt at the time he was asked, but I don't think it means he's absolutely not going to entertain the idea of an extension. I'm sure he knew the Spurs would get wind of what he was saying so he decided to be honest and see what reaction he got out of it.
    I think the Spurs probably already know his feelings.

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    Rising stars and picks if you move any of the Big 3.

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    1) If you're "waving the white flag on the Duncan era", the team wouldn't also consider Oden as a possible return vice Batum.

    2) While Miller isn't TP, he is a decent enough PG, that we could compete for a championship with him if the other positions were strong enough. I would be extremely surprised with any TP trade that didn't have a starter level PG coming back (or arriving in an immediately associated deal).
    3) If Tony Parker really wants to be traded then he's not good to have and would likely hurt the team on and off the court.

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    I think Miller would be in the trade instead of Przybilla. Someone has to play the point.
    If the Spurs are moving Parker, part of their thinking would have to be that Hill is ready to be the PG. Otherwise, trading Parker makes no sense unless he's being swapped for CP3.

    Miller, IMO, would be a horrible fit. No jumper, too slow to defend and whines if he's not allowed to totally control the offense.

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    I doubt there's any validity to this "rumor" ... but if there is, the player the Spurs would want back in such a trade would be Batum. No one else on the Blazers makes much sense at all. Batum, on the other hand, is that defender/three-point shooter the Spurs could use at small forward. (Thinking about it a little further, the Blazers getting Matthews would hypothetically make Batum expendable.)

    If there is any smoke to this fire, it'd be Parker for Batum, Bayless and Przybilla. Przybilla is on the last year of his contract and since he's out long-term with a knee injury, his salary would be covered by insurance. Bayless would mostly be needed to match salaries.

    Would I do this trade? No. Batum could be really good but for the next year or two, the Spurs would be much worse. This trade would basically be waving the white flag on the Duncan era.
    IF this rumor is true, I don't think SA would trade Parker and not get a starting PG back in return. I hope the team knows that GHill is not a PG. Therefore, I think it would be Parker for Batum, Bayless, and Miller OR Batum, Fernandez, and Miller. Either way, I think Miller would have to be included. He has a few years left on his contract and he is 34, so one would question if Holt would sign off on the deal.

    From a Portland perspective, I don't think they agree to the deal without giving Miller up. Why would they want Parker and Miller on the same roster?

    One positive about Miller is he almost never misses a game due to injury. I'm not saying I would be in favor of the deal, but I just don't see how Miller wouldn't be included.

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    Probably. Three years is probably the max.
    That would make sense. Pop & TD return to join Manu in his last year if the team is strong enough to seriously contend. Otherwise, it's a fond farewell and time to start draft prospect threads in December.

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    If the Spurs are moving Parker, part of their thinking would have to be that Hill is ready to be the PG.
    Talk about waving the white flag...

    Miller would be a horrible fit in your opinion, but what would the Spurs think?

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    It would be strange to see the Spurs extend Manu, yet deal Parker for what would be a rebuilding package (young player + picks). I suppose the Spurs want to ensure that they can still sell tix while Duncan's still playing and they needed to keep at least one of Manu and Parker around.

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    if tony's gonna be traded i hope i see better than that. teams that are full of spurs type players are teams like wizards, bucks, rockets (ya i said it), pacers. i don't like the teams that seem to always be in the rumors. must have something to do with the financial situation.

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    I think the Spurs probably already know his feelings.
    Then Parker's just determined to leave. Okay then. Let's ship his ass out immediately.

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    That would make sense. Pop & TD return to join Manu in his last year if the team is strong enough to seriously contend. Otherwise, it's a fond farewell and time to start draft prospect threads in December.
    Yeah, exactly.

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