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  1. #26
    Believe.
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    Lakers - Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Odom, Bynum

    Celtics - Garnett, Pierce, Allen, Rondo

    Cavaliers - Mo Williams, 40 yr old Shaq, and Antwan Jamison

    Yeah, I'd say that this ENCOURAGES compe ion.

    Have you not paid attention the past 3 years?

    3 straight NBA Finals appearances for the Lakers. You think that's because Kobe is so good? He is overrated and we all know it. It's because the Lakers are so stacked that no Western conference team even has a chance anymore.

    And out EAST, the past 3 years, only time Boston didn't reach the Finals was because KG was injured.


    This actually encourages compe ion.
    i agree... kobe is extremely over-rated... kobe rode the back seat when shaq was around... when shaq left, he only won 34 games... he was saved by one of the worst trades in nba history(pop said so himself)

    lebron, in his rookie year... for a team that was so bad that they got first pick, led his team to 35 wins... and never looked back...

    kobe has only been a winner when someone was around...

    bynum is arguably one of the best centers in the league... i would say 3rd behind howard and kaman...

    then he has one of the best man-to-man defenders in the league..

    and this years best power forward(according to some sources)... i know spurs fans hate him... but gasol showed some of the best footwork in the game this season... of course behind duncan

    kobe cant lead a team

    lebron can and has already showed that

  2. #27
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    lebron has 2 stars by his side...

    kobe has 3... and the deepest bench in the league... and the greatest coach of all time

    the only difference is that lebron's stars are celebrities and that's why everyone is hating on him

  3. #28
    Veteran Killakobe81's Avatar
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    In the HEAT's 22 years of existence, they have made the playoffs 13 times, won 7 division les, and 1 championship.


    My guess they will win 3 or 4 (at most) over the next 6 years ...

    And then the heat will be back in the basement ...

    But 5 les in 25 years IS impressive if they can do it ...

  4. #29
    Double facepalm...
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    Oh no! We will have less selfish 'me-ball' in the playoffs to be bored with...

  5. #30
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    lakers and the celtics have been the most talented teams in the league for the past 3 years, and it's not even close. the talent gap between the celtics and the next best team in the EC is quite large, so large that the celtics could lose garnett and still take the second best team (magic) to seven games. the same for the lakers and the WC. since the decline of the spurs, the nuggets and the suns aren't anywhere near the lakers.

    what should have been done though was the prevention of the formation of the lakers and the celtics in the first place. bringing in a more powerful miami heat only further widens the gap and does nothing to restore parity in the NBA.

  6. #31
    Double facepalm...
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    Nobody wants parity. People want excellence. And they REALLY want to see excellence crash and burn at the last second... (see 2008 Pats, 2004 Lakers etc)

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    Nobody wants parity. People want excellence. And they REALLY want to see excellence crash and burn at the last second... (see 2008 Pats, 2004 Lakers etc)
    well said, I love when teams crash and burn at the last second.

  8. #33
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    i don't watch the NBA to root against a specific team. that's pretty re ed. fans should root for their team and hope for compe ive games when watching other teams.

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    Believe. Basketballgirl25's Avatar
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    i don't watch the NBA to root against a specific team. that's pretty re ed. fans should root for their team and hope for compe ive games when watching other teams.
    I root for the Nets to win, but when they are out and not in the playoffs I root for the teams I dislike to lose first and then it doesn't matter who wins

  10. #35
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    3 straight NBA Finals appearances for the Lakers. You think that's because Kobe is so good? He is overrated and we all know it. It's because the Lakers are so stacked that no Western conference team even has a chance anymore.
    No team that has only two all-stars is stacked.
    Last edited by namlook; 07-13-2010 at 08:30 PM.

  11. #36
    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    But 5 les in 25 years IS impressive if they can do it ...
    We just whacked out 10 in 30 years.

    Let us proceed...

  12. #37
    Believe.
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    In the HEAT's 22 years of existence, they have made the playoffs 13 times, won 7 division les, and 1 championship.


    Glad to see your standards are so low.
    We just whacked out 10 in 30 years.

    Let us proceed...
    Notice the difference in standards.

    Lakers/Lakers fans don't boast about making the playoffs and division les.

    Woot@making the playoffs in the East that was woefully weak all those years.

    Miami
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    861-911 (.486)

  13. #38
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    Is anyone on here seriously going to talk about the success of the Laker franchise? Are you seriously that stupid???

    The Lakers have set the bar for excellence in the NBA. 16 les, best record of all time, most Final's appearances, and the list goes on and on and on.

    I have no qualms with Lebron pussying out and joining a team of superstars. He can do whatever he wants, he's a free agent. It will only make Phil's last championship that much more special when we stomp on those gots.

  14. #39
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    The Lakers have set the bar for excellence in the NBA. 16 les, best record of all time, most Final's
    I believe the Boston Celtics set the bar for excellence.

    17 les > 16 les

    Yeah, the Lakers have reached and lost in the Finals more times, so that means Boston has a better Finals winning percentage. 17 les in 21 tries.

    Also, nobody has even gotten close to equal the Celtic dominance of 1957-1969.

    Let me know when the Lakers pull off 11 les in 13 seasons.

  15. #40
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    I believe the Boston Celtics set the bar for excellence.

    17 les > 16 les

    Yeah, the Lakers have reached and lost in the Finals more times, so that means Boston has a better Finals winning percentage. 17 les in 21 tries.

    Also, nobody has even gotten close to equal the Celtic dominance of 1957-1969.

    Let me know when the Lakers pull off 11 les in 13 seasons.
    Way to compare another Franchise since you can't talk about yours. ROFL@All-time sub .500 record. Yay for below mediocrity.

    Let me know when you stop jerking off to other teams since yours can't compare.

  16. #41
    none shall pass SomeCallMeTim's Avatar
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    Lakers - Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Odom, Bynum

    Celtics - Garnett, Pierce, Allen, Rondo

    Cavaliers - Mo Williams, 40 yr old Shaq, and Antwan Jamison

    Yeah, I'd say that this ENCOURAGES compe ion.

    Have you not paid attention the past 3 years?

    3 straight NBA Finals appearances for the Lakers. You think that's because Kobe is so good? He is overrated and we all know it. It's because the Lakers are so stacked that no Western conference team even has a chance anymore.

    And out EAST, the past 3 years, only time Boston didn't reach the Finals was because KG was injured.


    This actually encourages compe ion.
    Um, no. It increases Miami's compe iveness. But concentrating 2 of the top 3 players on 1 team and then another top 15 guy with them does the exact opposite of "encouraging compe ion."

    Do you even understand what that phrase means?

    Same applies for the Lakers, too, of course... when Gasol joined Kobe to make for two top 10-15 players on the team the exact same principle applied.

  17. #42
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    3 straight NBA Finals appearances for the Lakers. You think that's because Kobe is so good? He is overrated and we all know it.
    orly?

    Riley doesn't think so:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0565oawy9Ak

  18. #43
    none shall pass SomeCallMeTim's Avatar
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    I believe the Boston Celtics set the bar for excellence.

    17 les > 16 les

    Yeah, the Lakers have reached and lost in the Finals more times, so that means Boston has a better Finals winning percentage. 17 les in 21 tries.

    Also, nobody has even gotten close to equal the Celtic dominance of 1957-1969.

    Let me know when the Lakers pull off 11 les in 13 seasons.
    at using ancient history from the Jim Crow era while downplaying recent and much more relevant history.

    Unless you want to pull out stuff from the days of black and white TV, you can make a pretty good case that the Lakers >>> Celtics. They lead 2-1 les in the last 3 years, 5-1 les the last decade, 10-4 over the last three decades. And the lead is just as huge when it comes to Finals appearances, playoff appearances, winning seasons, winning pct, etc.

    I'm not saying that the old era is meaningless -- it means a lot -- but you are clinging to a long-dead past as evidence of Boston's "superiority."

  19. #44
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    You know what will be more epic? Watching the Lakers get humbled and spanked until Kobe, who will turn 32 before the season starts, retires and Los Angeles goes back into obscurity.

    Gasol = collusion

    LeBron/Wade/Bosh free agent decisions = not collusion
    Unfortunately, he's right. The Gasol trade involved decisions made by franchises, which can be collusion. Decisions made by free agents, unless tampered with by franchises, aren't collusion (thus the term 'free agent'). Simple point. Obvious point. Obviously lost on the masses.

  20. #45
    Veteran Smooth Criminal's Avatar
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    In the HEAT's 22 years of existence, they have made the playoffs 13 times, won 7 division les, and 1 championship.


    You know you're team hasn't been great when you count Division les and times made the playoffs

  21. #46
    Veteran Smooth Criminal's Avatar
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    lebron has 2 stars by his side...

    kobe has 3... and the deepest bench in the league... and the greatest coach of all time

    the only difference is that lebron's stars are celebrities and that's why everyone is hating on him
    Wade+Bosh>>>Pau+Bynum?+Artest?

  22. #47
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    In the HEAT's 22 years of existence, they have made the playoffs 13 times, won 7 division les, and 1 championship.


    It's hilarious that youre actually proud of this. I bet youll be content when the Heat are bounced in the ECF too.

    Also ROFL at Celtics setting the bar for excellence. 17 les when 11 of those came from a run of les when the NBA was less compe ive, rounding out to the Celtics winning 6 les in 40 years. In the past 20 years alone 6 other teams have had more success.

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