Another TP trade rumor (to Portland)

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

If Parker goes elsewhere next year who will be the PG? Are they going to sign CP3?
We couldn't have a PG next year so we'd need to find one pg anyway.Moving Parker wouldn't be thinking Hill is ready.

I'm tired of all the "you can't trade parker because Hill is not a PG". Maybe it's true,maybe not but Tony could go anyway so we have to explore all the ways.
It's not as if Tony had 4 more years signed.

In the eventual possibility that we lose Parker to free agency next summer, then we could acquire a TE, the size of his first year contract with his eventual new team, which would mean the Spurs would have plenty of cap space to get a PG.

How hard is it to understand that trading him for 50c on the dollar is worse than getting a large TE next summer? The winner of each trade is the team that gets the best player out of those that are traded. In this case, unless Portland are dumb enough to offer us Roy, which they won't, a trade with them makes no sense for the Spurs in regards to their championship chances for the next 2 seasons.

[jermaine]

In the eventual possibility that we lose Parker to free agency next summer, then we could acquire a TE, the size of his first year contract with his eventual new team, which would mean the Spurs would have plenty of cap space to get a PG.

How hard is it to understand that trading him for 50c on the dollar is worse than getting a large TE next summer? The winner of each trade is the team that gets the best player out of those that are traded. In this case, unless Portland are dumb enough to offer us Roy, which they won't, a trade with them makes no sense for the Spurs in regards to their championship chances for the next 2 seasons.

I didn't know about the "TE" thing whateva that is but it sounds good! Who could b a realistic sign for us for this TE you think. Seriously

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I didn't know about the "TE" thing whateva that is but it sounds good! Who could b a realistic sign for us for this TE you think. Seriously

TE is trade exception. No idea who the Spurs could get next summer,IMO Parker will stay, but just yesterday Utah used the TE they acquired in the Boozer to Chicago trade to get Al Jefferson by sending only Koufos back to Minnesota.

[jermaine]

TE is trade exception. No idea who the Spurs could get next summer,IMO Parker will stay, but just yesterday Utah used the TE they acquired in the Boozer to Chicago trade to get Al Jefferson by sending only Koufos back to Minnesota.

I liked that move! I'm on some KeepParkerorlethimwalk.com right now! Lol.

[K-State Spur]

I don't understand what all the fuss is about.

What is clear so far:
- Parker wants to stay
- Parker wants a max contract
- we have no clue what the Spurs want

Several possiblities:

a) the Spurs want Tony Parker to stay, and are willing to pay max price. That could be consistent with e.g. asking RJ to opt out and signing to a longer term, lower contract to clear some space.

b) the Spurs want Tony Parker to stay, and aren't willing to pay max price, or not willing to give him an extension right now. This is consistent with Parker then going to the press and claiming he is ready to test the FA market next year and that if he has to move, he will. Just some basic technique to muscle up the negotiation, i.e. "I am not afraid to walk"

c) the Spurs don't want to keep Tony Parker after the end of his contract, but would probably want to get something in return. In this case it goes through an extension and a trade. All bets are off, but I feel this is highly unlikely.

You can't talk about a pending FA for next year without mentioning the lockout and the strong possibility that - if the team is patient - a max contract for Parker signed in the offseason may not be anywhere near as large as a max contract extension signed now.

[ChuckD]

Miller, IMO, would be a horrible fit. No jumper, too slow to defend and whines if he's not allowed to totally control the offense.

This. He basically threw a fit when asked to play within the Portland system last year. There were dust ups at practice between him and McMillan. He's a poor shooting/ball dominating PG, a bad fit to turn over the keys to this offense to.

[ChuckD]

You can't talk about a pending FA for next year without mentioning the lockout and the strong possibility that - if the team is patient - a max contract for Parker signed in the offseason may not be anywhere near as large as a max contract extension signed now.

That's a hazard BOTH ways, though. The MAX may be lower, which benefits the Spurs, but he's unrestricted, which means if he's unhappy at anything, not necessarily the Spurs but maybe the new CBA, he could walk away in a fit of pique.

[lotr1trekkie]

TP for another star. Forget 3 role players for one of the premier pg's in the NBA.

[barbacoataco]

This. He basically threw a fit when asked to play within the Portland system last year. There were dust ups at practice between him and McMillan. He's a poor shooting/ball dominating PG, a bad fit to turn over the keys to this offense to.

This is not true. Miller was upset because Brandon Roy was demanding that he get more touches, and it made it hard for Miller to do his job as PG when everything had to go through Roy. In fact, Portland started to do better as the Miller got more control of the offense as the season went on. Also, Miller played great in the playoffs. He's good, but not good enough to replace Parker.

[dbestpro]

"So if they don't match we have a green light on TP"

I heard Pop talking on the phone and he was laughing about the recent rumor of Tony Parker going to Portland. He said coach Nate was referring to the custom toilets they were putting in the locker room. The toilets are green and the toilet paper they ordered is blue. He wants to put green lights on the blue paper so they will match.

It's not about Parker. He was referring to the lavatory.

[K-State Spur]

That's a hazard BOTH ways, though. The MAX may be lower, which benefits the Spurs, but he's unrestricted, which means if he's unhappy at anything, not necessarily the Spurs but maybe the new CBA, he could walk away in a fit of pique.

The max WILL be lower, and while it does open the Spurs up to risk by letting him hit the market - the new CBA will likely still allow them to offer him more than any opposing team.

One of Stern's goals has always been to make changing teams in free agency less lucrative for the players. Until this offseason, he had been pretty successful with the last CBA.

[coyotes_geek]

The max WILL be lower, and while it does open the Spurs up to risk by letting him hit the market - the new CBA will likely still allow them to offer him more than any opposing team.

Now that I think about it, when the CBA that created the maximum contract was enacted it included some kind of a grandfather clause for all the players already in the NBA. I think it was something like teams could offer you the max, or 105% of your previous salary, whichever was higher. This kept guys like Shaq and KG who were already making more than what the max was going to be from getting forced in to taking paycuts.

If the new CBA included a similar provision, something which I think the players association would fight for, then the new CBA may not be as big a risk to guys like Tony after all.

[silk]

TP's friend Thierry Henry ( superstar french soccer player) will play in New York next year. Maybe another incentive for him to go there

[Kindergarten Cop]

Now that Utah has confirmed that it will not match the offer for Matthews, I guess McMillan now has the green light on that trade for Tony Parker.

[Nathan89]

If we were going to trade tp to portland, then I would take nothing less than batum, fernandez, oden, and bayless.

[8FOR!3]

lol at the Andre Miller hate, TP has said in an interview that Miller's the most underrated PG in the NBA...

[SpurCharger]

ill take Batum, Rudy Fernandez, And andre Miller.....