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Wilson's better than coming up empty handed but it'd just be RJ 2.0
You need to spell out which Chandler. I was thinking Tyson.
Yeah, Wilson would obviously be a candidate, if the Knicks wanted RJ and were willing to let Wilson go. But I don't think they would...
Wilson's better than coming up empty handed but it'd just be RJ 2.0
great, add Tmac and upgrade for less $ then still have some cash left over for another piece.
wow, is jefferson not even getting $6+ million offers from desperate teams like the clippers and nets? he must have sucked more than i realized. someone please give him a S&T and get him out of the spurs. jefferson most likely wants 3yr/$30 million, which i think is too much and not worth the trouble.
telling him to clarify when it's obvious.
Eh, Tyson was in the news yesterday. Sorry, it feels like it's been the norm lately for relatively new posters to see a player going to another team and post on here that they think the Spurs should get in on the trade, etc.
Call it off-season rookie poster fatigue
Barnes probably gone to Heat or Celtics.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/spo...r-celtics.html
Spurs got fooled by his shooting % on 3s in the season before he got here (.39.7) where he took a lot more shots--and got more practice. In nine seasons he was only over the breakeven point about 4 times. Bowen almost AVERAGED a better 3% for his career than the best % RJ shot in that one year.
RJ also has lost some mobility on defense and had trouble with the mental aspects of the Spurs defense.
Rating: He's not a scrub and can still make someone's starting rotation--but he isn't going to light anyone's eyes up anymore.
Not a scrub, but
You could tell by the way he plays that Jefferson is no rocket scientist.
ON the court.
Opting out of a 15 millions contract borders insanity.
I still can't believe this is actually true.
I hope the Spurs don't even think resigning this loser.
What would be the purpose of the deadline? Resigning Jefferson really doesn't affect what the Spurs would do with the remaining amount of the MLE or the LLE, because apparently we are going after the best possible SF that we can get anyways. Putting a deadline on it would only make sense if we could spend the money allotted (however much the Spurs decide that is) for RJ on somebody else - and that is obviously not the case here.
Bulls, Nets, Knicks are really the only teams left with any money that would satisfy him, his best option would be to resign with Spurs to be honest.
Why would we want to give him a deadline? The market is shrinking for him, and we still need a starting SF...
I can't be the only person to feel that Jefferson has no desire to be a Spur. He didn't buy into the team last year, and I doubt he will this year if he ends up signing out of necessity. I'd rather not fill such an important position with him if he's going to give a weak effort (for whatever reason).
This guy made what was one of the worst decisions of the offseason (for him). It was great for the Spurs, but he could have gotten 15 mil thus year to suck hard again. Now if he's lucky he'll earn that 15 mil in 2 1/2 to 3 seasons of suckage.
RJ still being a FA is very telling about a lack of enthusiasm from both sides to re-sign a contract.
Spurs don't really want to lock RJ to a long term contract after a year where the main conclusion was that he was a bad fit with Spurs.
IMO, RJ isn't fond of re-singing with Spurs. He failed the whole year to find his place and he doesn't even have the edge of being with a contender.
RJ is surely in wait and see mode with re-signing with Spurs being only a plan B.
Let's hope that if a team is finally interested in RJ, Spurs will be able to do a S&T.
And I'm all for letting RJ go instead of locking him to a big contract.
If I was Spurs GM, I would offer the rest of the MLE to Barnes and telling him he would start at SF. I would offer the LLE to James Jones. If I can get both, I would let RJ go.
A Barnes/Jones SF rotation isn't great but it's still way better than paying $35M for RJ.
RJ probably has a deal waiting from the Spurs but both parties have reasons not to speed up the deal since RJ should look for more $$$ to raise his value and the Spurs are still looking for more depth anyway.
RJ's still a better bet as a productive starter than anyone realistically available in FA.
I agree 100%. IMO, if you can get two vets like Barnes/Jones, although they are not as good as RJ, the production & fit from the SF spot is just as good as if you have RJ. If that is the case, no need for RJ long term.
Nah the production and fit would be Ime Udoka/Keith Bogans-like, which is worse than RJ.
Barnes doesn't seem like Spur material either and its been stated that Pop doesn't like him. Spurs don't have the money or the ballclub to make up for it to have Barnes come over and if his twitter is of any indication its likely Miami or Boston as his destination...there are no ties between the Spurs/Barnes but there are with Jones.
RJ's stats are not hard to replace. Both of the players mentioned are better 3-PT shooters and defenders. That makes the impact better.
Defensively, RJ is better than Jones and between him and Barnes its at best a lateral move on that end. RJ's a much more dynamic scorer however and has a better shot than either of taking the scoring load off the big 3 on a given night.
However like I said previously, Barnes doesn't even seem to be on the Spurs radar since his personality's not a fit (whines about minutes, tweets too much stupid stuff, etc) and the Spurs don't seem to fit into his plans. I think its safe to cross his name off the list especially since there are reports of Spurs interest in other SF's like Jones.
Where did you see any of the stuff you mentioned?
His annoying tweets got flack from Otis. Barnes not being a fit from the 760 radio prog and posters on the board. You also don't see Barnes and the Spurs name together but you do see them pursue guys like Jones.
Barnes = headcase
It depends on how you view the future. If you're of the opinion that the championship window officially closes when TD retires (most likely in two years) then Jefferson's contract doesn't matter that much and the drop off from him to what's available to the Spurs is significant. If you believe that the Spurs can retool on the fly, with TP choosing to remain in SA and the Spurs building a team around him, then perhaps being frugal with Jefferson makes some sense.
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