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I love it how you guys keep claiming that WC and I are conservative Republicans when we are clearly both middle of the road independents. I guess that just proves how far to the left you "big government" progressive guys really are.
compared to what? what reference point are you dead enders using to make the claim that anybody is lying?
I love it how you guys keep claiming that WC and I are conservative Republicans when we are clearly both middle of the road independents. I guess that just proves how far to the left you "big government" progressive guys really are.
great point but i believe it's all window dressing for some, and that applies to both sides of the aisle.
If the impression is that Omama can know the truth of the bill, -AND- he said things that were not true, then either Obama is lying, or the author is about what Obama said. Right?
these two will only go as far as thier conservative hatred for Obama will take them. Which aint too damn far.They want to call him a liar concerning this legislation..when called on it they tehn claim "He's going to lie"..
I love it how you assume that anyone who disagrees with you that they are big govt progressives. Maybe some of us like to call you on your unsubstantiated claims.
This forum is pretty much mod-free...
You don't have rub our noses in it; we're accustomed to wallowing.
is this the statement for which you are basing your claim?It was billed by Barack Obama as the toughest crackdown on Wall Street since the great depression.
Really? Middle of the road?
Tell me where you stand on the following:
Indefinite detention of suspected terrorists
Warrantless wiretapping
No-knock raids
Gov'ts claiming "state secrets" privileges
Death tax
Iraq War
Afghanistan War
Israel's blockades
Gay marriage
Illegal immigrant amnesty
I'm pretty sure you'll come down on the side of the right-wing on nearly every one of those categories. In fact, if you want, list which categories you do break from conservative/Republicans and side with liberals/Democrats instead. I'd be interested to hear them.
"both middle of the road independents"
dont forget how they stand on the scourge of racist blacks (who have evidently accosted WC during his time in the military).
boutons, what you got on the OP?"both middle of the road independents"
All of DC is owned by the financial sector. DC simply cannot stand up to the power (aka $$$) of Wall St, capitalists, corps.
And the joke will be on the tea baggers when/if they send anybody to DC to find their Congressmen's will be purchased, too.
Wall St is so pissed at this silly, weak regulation (the legislation isn't even written into rules, yet. That will takes many years. SEC took 14 years to write the rules against predatory lenders after Congress passed legislation in 1994) that Wall St is already heavily funding/preferring the Repugs in the mid-term campaigns, while the window is still open for Wall St to influence the legislation's rule writing.
vote mickey mouse.
oh Mickey is a commie!
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Indefinite detention of suspected terrorists
no...get the info you want then take them out back and shoot them
Warrantless wiretapping
I'm OK with that. I've got nothing to hide
No-knock raids
clearly a fact that total surprise usually leads to safer, lower casualty (on both sides) arrests
Gov'ts claiming "state secrets" privileges
always have, always will
Death tax
against...taxes have already been paid on that income once
Iraq War
GTFO
Afghanistan War
GTFO
Israel's blockades
Israel has a right to defend itself. If Mexico was launching 1000's of rockets a year into the US would blow them the away instead of just putting an embargo on them
Gay marriage
civil unions fine with me. Shouldn't be able to adopt and employees shouldn't be forced to cover partners under spousal insurance/benefits. Shouldn't be able to receive SS partner death benefits
Illegal immigrant amnesty
GREATLY expanded greencard program plus work tax. No citizenship. Repeal anchor baby amendment.
There ya go.
[I]n the broad strokes you paint them in, some definitely sound bad.
I will play your game though. Just remember, I don't figure in the lies said about such items. You are correct however, I do come on the same side as the right.
1) Death tax
Against
2) Iraq War
For
3) Afghanistan War
For
4) Israel's blockades
They are a sovereign nation. Because I understand why they do what they do, I support them.
5) Gay marriage
Against.
a) I wish government never got involved with marriage, call them all civil unions.
b) I see marriage as a church organized acceptance.
c) A and B together means I see government control of an aspect of an establish religion, illegal.
d) If the government wishes to control rights and privileges for a couple, it cannot be what is an established church function. Any legal coupling must be called something else.
I'm happy with a domestic union being the legal term, for any couple. sexual or heterosexual.
6) Illegal immigrant amnesty
Amnesty is a good concept for understandable crimes. Our neighbors wanting a better life is an understandable crime. Most of them, I would trade for five useless Americans if I could. Tjhat's why in some posts I said if the left wants to support illegal immigration, we trade mexico. One for one. We will given them one of the tax payer money sponge suckers for one illegal. Problem is, that idea will never take shape.
I will always be a resounding NO, until we actually have border security. Then, and only then, will I be willing to address amnesty. To just talk about the possibility, makes more illegals come in than normally would, so they can make the deadline for amnesty.
I hope I made the last two points more clear than I have in the past. I thing we debated the other issues to death, except maybe the death tax.
Nice try mouse.
And you claim to support upholding the cons ution? You claim to give a about history? the forefathers?
dude your credibility is . your an AUTHORITARIAN at its worst. maybe you should move to a place where this is the norm...like North Korea....with that ing communist mouse too.
why arent you condemning your authoritarian buddy there?
you want hands off corps and hands all over citizens, is that it? sounds like communist if I ever heard it
in repugs...
MY credibility is ?
youre all for a military state. John Wayne my ass. dude your a fascist commie at heart
You are starting to act and sound like mouse. Sorry, my mistake. thought maybe you were another of his alias'.
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