Such as?
I'd rather take my chances with him over most of the guys that people are talking about. Anderson was ranked eighth in small forwards coming out of the draft. Between him and Blair with Hairston for defense, the Spurs can dictate mismatches at that position if they choose.
When all you've got to go after players with is just a BAE and a little more than 1/3 of an MLE, a 10-12th man is all you're going to be able to get.
Exactly. 10-12th men shouldn't be starting. See Bogans, Keith.
And Hairston, Malik.
And you base this pronouncement on what, exactly? It obviously has nothing to do with what he's done on a basketball court. Did you miss what the guy drafted at about the same spot as Hairston did to the Spurs in the playoffs?
I guess we'd rather have a re-tread vet who has proven that he can't start and can yet another young player before we find out what he can do. Maybe the Spurs should just try to trade everyone under the age of 25.
Hairston has shown that he's deserving of consideration to be on an NBA roster, but so far that's about it. There's a long way to go between that and proving that he deserves to be starting for a team with championship aspirations. I like Hairston. I really do. But he's got a ways to go before I want him as my starting SF.
Goran Dragic has nothing to do with Malik Hairston. To suggest that there's some cosmic link between Dragic and Hairston's draft positions is just silly. Besides, if you want to play that game you should go look up what spot Matt Bonner got drafted at.Did you miss what the guy drafted at about the same spot as Hairston did to the Spurs in the playoffs?
As fate would have it, there is enough space on the roster to carry both a guy who has proven he's good enough to stick in the nba for several years AND a young player. It's not an either/or decision.I guess we'd rather have a re-tread vet who has proven that he can't start and can yet another young player before we find out what he can do.
Maybe the Spurs should just get rid of everyone over the age of 25 and carry a roster full of guys who have spent most of their professional careers playing for a d-league team?Maybe the Spurs should just try to trade everyone under the age of 25.
Hairston beat out Bogans for a spot last year, and Bogans started a whole bunch of games. Jones isn't a starter on a championship-caliber team, and he's proven that. , Jones hasn't even been able to start on bad teams.
There's nothing cosmic about it. Both guys were drafted at about the same spot, both seem to have some talent, one was thrown into the rotation and allowed to make mistakes, the other was put into the D league where he kicked everyone's ass and didn't learn anything new for two years. It's not a coincidence which one of them ed the other's team in the playoffs. Here's a hint: It could only have been the one who got an opportunity to play.
The only way James Jones is an improvement is if your pronouncement of Hairston as the 12th man on the roster turns out to be accurate, even though there's no evidence to suggest that. On a normal basketball team I'd be inclined to agree with you, but Jones is Bogans redux, and with Pop's penchant for giving way too many minutes to sucky vets, I'd just as soon he didn't have that particular option in his bag of tricks.
No, it's much more sensible that they just let them play in Austin as long as they're eligible and then let them go somewhere else.
Depending on whether Hairston is really going to play significant minutes, the Spurs might have more or less use for a guy like James Jones. Plus we don't even know if RJ is coming back. So the SF position is pretty much a mystery.
I always thought James Jones was pretty good at Phoenix. He hit his 3's in the playoffs even with pressure. He isn't a geat all around player, but he's been on winning teams, and just in 2009 he hit a lot of 3's for the Heat in the playoffs.
I would rather have a defensive specialist backup SF, but the Spurs need 3pt shooting too.
That's precisely why I didn't want Bonner re-signed and why I'm not thrilled with the prospect of the Spurs signing Jones or someone of that ilk. Granted, there aren't better options available for what the Spurs have to offer than Barnes, Butler and Jones and depth/insurance wise, it would be ideal to have a veteran in case Anderson/Hairston struggle and/or injuries arise.
But like you said, if you give Pop the option of playing a veteran over a young player, it's a given that the veteran will get the nod over the young player and a guy like Jones isn't good enough to do that with.
The prudent thing to do would be to have no established roles between these three going into training camp. Allow their play to dictate which one should be in the rotation, which one should be on the fringe of it and which one should be out of it entirely.
Ultimately though, the Spurs appear to have the same problem they had last year on the wings: quan y, but not enough quality. MaNu4Tres talked about this and the lack of a clear cut, two-way third wing.
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In-house options would be Gee/Hairston. Suppose Bogans could be back for minimum. Mason, no way. @kevinajones7
Only outside guy I can confirm right now is James Jones. Maybe better off w/ in-house options RT @Amer_Mansour So who ARE they talking to?
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i think James Jones would work out better than Bogans or Mason. i can't remember how James Jones plays defense, but i assume it would be better than Mason's because of his 6-8 frame. plus, he's a proven knock down shooter for his career. with Splitter and Duncan in the middle, it's not going to make it as essential for the perimiter defenders to keep their man in front of them. we'll be seeing a lot more funneling the offense to either one of those guys.
i don't see how the Spurs could go into the season without a guy that can knock down threes, other than Manu and Hill (Anderson hasn't proven anything yet, so i'm not going to rely on him). having only two perimiter players being able to knock down threes when your whole offense is based on kickouts off of penetration and the post isn't smart. to have a guy play the 3 that can hit the three is going to be key.
All the more reason that Jefferson will be back.
The remainder of the MLE and the LLE will go to finding a backup 2 and backup 3.
I sure wish we'd hurry up and sign someone this is getting pathetic.
By the time we do something, everyone that is worth a damn is gonna be gone.
It's interesting that in our need to fill in a "Bowen" role ( can defend and shoot open 3's) we have to extremes as prospects:
Players who can defend : Hariston and Gee ( athletic types)
and
Players who can shoot: Anderson and Jones .
In my opinion the latter fills up the role Brent Barry used to play and not bowen. Now back to filling bowens role. I think you have a more realistc chance of teaching a defender like Hariston to shoot ( calling Chip Engelend) rather than teaching a Jones to defend ( the guy's been in the NBA for ages and hasn't learned to play defense, how are you going to teach an old dog new tricks )
I really wish we had gotten the opportunity to see Anderson play SL . . .
The guys that the Spurs are going to target are not the ones we're talking about. There are still several guys available.
this dude would be nice if he can play strapped defense. & hits kick out 3s.
Looks like they're taking a long, hard look... Been 3 days already...
I would have hoped the Spurs to try to get Navarro from Spain, he had a nice stroke.
No telling if the Spurs are the ones mulling it over or if they have an offer on the table. But if they do have an offer on the table and I were Jones, I don't think I'd be in much of a hurry to commit to a $2mil/yr deal right now given the money that's flying around. Same goes for Butler.
Well, that's the thing with the Spurs. You never know anything really until either the guy signs with another team or the deal goes through.
So we wait...
Very true. It can really, really suck to be a Spurs fan during the offseason. For all we know the Spurs are going to pluck some SF out of europe that we've never heard of.
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