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    Each Day Offers Potential Darrin's Avatar
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    I said he sucks off the ball, not at passing. Read man!

    I always thought that this all out scoring type play isn't his ideal situation and he kind of wants to be setting everybody up, as you said.

    I mean off the ball, as in cutting, spacing, hitting shots from a standstill. These are things that LeBron is not good at, a big reason is obviously because he has never been in that opportunity. At his size and with his speed and strength, he could be amazing off the ball when it is harder for the defense to key in on him.

    A LeBron that is able to get easy points off the ball and rest up for 4th quarters is a scary though.
    Sorry for misreading. That is true about him being off-ball. Hopefully, that is what he will work on this season. Is Pat Riley coming back or not? Have you heard anything?

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    LeBron is going to play the Magic Johnson type role

    don't be surprised to see

    LeBron
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    lineups

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    Lebron as Magic? He needs to develop a post game if he wants to play the Magic role. Magic was a beast in the post. Lebron certainly can't lead a fast break like Magic. He just doesn't have those type of skills. Lebron is a good passer and he could be maybe 80% of the passer Magic was, so that's something I guess. Then we get to intangibles like heart, clutch playmaking and rising to the occasion. Magic was all about those things.

    Yeah, um, I think the Lebron as Magic thing might need to be scrapped.
    Last edited by namlook; 07-16-2010 at 03:28 AM.

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    Magic Johnson won a le in HS
    Magic Johnson won a le in College
    Magic Johnson won 5 les in NBA

    When you say the word " le," as pertains to LeHype, it translates to the "Chosen One" and "King" even though he hasn't won jack. In other words, he should never be mentioned in the same breath as Magic Johnson. It's insulting.

    The only things LeHype and Magic Johnson have in common are that they both are tall, can dribble/rebound/score/pass, and they are both African American.

    In closing, he was given too much before he earned any of it. When the going got rough, he got going...

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    Lebron as Magic? He needs to develop a post game if he wants to play the Magic role. Magic was a beast in the post. Lebron certainly can't lead a fast break like Magic. He just doesn't have those type of skills. Lebron is a good passer and he could be maybe 80% of the passer Magic was, so that's something I guess. Then we get to intangibles like heart, clutch playmaking and rising to the occasion. Magic was all about those things.

    Yeah, um, I think the Lebron as Magic thing might need to be scrapped.
    Pat Riley stated that Lebron can be magic .I mean he coached magic and knows more about the guys game than we probably know . If anyone has the right to compare its either Riley or Magic himself imo .

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    Pat Riley stated that Lebron can be magic .I mean he coached magic and knows more about the guys game than we probably know . If anyone has the right to compare its either Riley or Magic himself imo .


    This is a case of loving the one you with. He even had the guts to say that 2006 le y'all stole from Dallas ranked higher than the ones he won with the Lakers. Yeah I believe that one too.

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    Magic Johnson won a le in HS
    Magic Johnson won a le in College
    Magic Johnson won 5 les in NBA

    When you say the word " le," as pertains to LeHype, it translates to the "Chosen One" and "King" even though he hasn't won jack. In other words, he should never be mentioned in the same breath as Magic Johnson. It's insulting.

    The only things LeHype and Magic Johnson have in common are that they both are tall, can dribble/rebound/score/pass, and they are both African American.

    In closing, he was given too much before he earned any of it. When the going gothttp://spurstalk.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=4514983 rough, he got going...
    How is it insulting ?

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    This is a case of loving the one you with. He even had the guts to say that 2006 le y'all stole from Dallas ranked higher than the ones he won with the Lakers. Yeah I believe that one too.
    He was referring to the adversity we had faced that season and how we were counted out even back in the nets series .

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    Pat Riley stated that Lebron can be magic .I mean he coached magic and knows more about the guys game than we probably know . If anyone has the right to compare its either Riley or Magic himself imo .
    He could be Magic? He is a 7 year vet now. He either is or he isn't Magic by now. Magic was a winner from day one. As a rookie in the finals he played five positions including starting at center in the deciding game when Kareem went down and led his team to a championship with 42 pts 15 boards 7 assists and three steals in that game. He was the finals MVP as a rookie.

    Lebron should worry about being himself, not being Magic, because he won't get there.

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    And werent the lakers always favored to win btw ? back in the eighties ?

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    He could be Magic? He is a 7 year vet now. He either is or he isn't Magic by now. Magic was a winner from day one. As a rookie in the finals he played five positions including starting at center in the deciding game when Kareem went down and led his team to a championship with 42 pts 15 boards 7 assists and three steals in that game. He was the finals MVP as a rookie.

    Lebron should worry about being himself, not being Magic, because he won't get there.
    As far as versatility id put him there with magic tho

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    As far as versatility id put him there with magic tho
    Magic played five positions including center.

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    Magic played five positions including center.
    And you dont believe lebron could ? If he was in a up tempo offense like new yorks or phoenix he would and could play center . I mean i dont know much about those showtime lakers because i wasnt even born yet but you really dont think lebron could play all five positions ? imo i believe he can . The games changed and thats another thing u have to consider as well

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    And you dont believe lebron could ? If he was in a up tempo offense like new yorks or phoenix he would and could play center . I mean i dont know much about those showtime lakers because i wasnt even born yet but you really dont think lebron could play all five positions ? imo i believe he can . The games changed and thats another thing u have to consider as well
    It's insulting because BSPN and other pundits have sensationalized LeHype like he is better than he is. Why is it that he drops all these triple doubles in the regular season, win all these games in the regular season, then his teams flame out in the playoffs? Because he is not a winner. Magic was a winner.

    LeHype couldn't play 5 positions like Magic because he has no post game to be a center or a PF. How can you be 6'8" - 260lbs and not have a post game?

    LeHype is good, but he is not great. Greatness is defined in the playoffs, not the regular season.

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    LMAO at Namlook's Ignore List - by putting time and energy into this you got owned. I've even got you reposting my posts.

    People still haven't figured out the public ignore list was to mess with people and irritate the people on the list?

    Namlook's Ignore List creator = OWNED just like Paul Pierce.

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    Your sigs just keep getting better.

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    It's insulting because BSPN and other pundits have sensationalized LeHype like he is better than he is. Why is it that he drops all these triple doubles in the regular season, win all these games in the regular season, then his teams flame out in the playoffs? Because he is not a winner. Magic was a winner.

    LeHype couldn't play 5 positions like Magic because he has no post game to be a center or a PF. How can you be 6'8" - 260lbs and not have a post game?

    LeHype is good, but he is not great. Greatness is defined in the playoffs, not the regular season.
    Playoffs career averages

    Magic Johnson: 19.5 ppg, 12.3 assts, 7.7 rpg.

    Lebron James: 29.3 ppg, 7,3 assts, 8.4 rpg.

    Pretty even, imo.

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    Why do people say that LeBron chokes in the playoffs? How many bad games has he had in the past three seasons?

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    Playoffs career averages

    Magic Johnson: 19.5 ppg, 12.3 assts, 7.7 rpg.

    Lebron James: 29.3 ppg, 7,3 assts, 8.4 rpg.

    Pretty even, imo.
    No one can touch LeHype or it's a foul, that's why he'll score on you. Even if you slow him down, the refs will put him on the FT line. Plus he's strong as an ox which leads people to thinking he is better than he is. He can jump out the gym so of course he'll get you rebounds. He has the ball in his hands at least 80% of the time, that's why he'll get you assists.

    He has no post game (which is sorry for a 6'8" 260lb NBA player). His jumper is streaky at best. "LeHype ball" does not win in the playoffs. It's been proven time and time again.

    5 rings is > 0 rings every day of the week. Magic went to the Finals 9 times - winning 5 of them. Would have been 7 wins if not for a few key injuries. LeHype will never play in 9 Finals and you can quote me on that. Magic played in 9 Finals in his 13 years. Kobe played in 7 Finals out of his 14 years. LeHype? A lucky 1 in 7. Ring Tally: Kobe 5, Magic 5, LeHype: 0

    His only trip to the Finals saw him getting swept. Stats are lies I tell you, damn lies.

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    I'm starting to think I got trolled.

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    good for the heat!!!

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    No one can touch LeHype or it's a foul, that's why he'll score on you. Even if you slow him down, the refs will put him on the FT line. Plus he's strong as an ox which leads people to thinking he is better than he is. He can jump out the gym so of course he'll get you rebounds. He has the ball in his hands at least 80% of the time, that's why he'll get you assists.

    He has no post game (which is sorry for a 6'8" 260lb NBA player). His jumper is streaky at best. "LeHype ball" does not win in the playoffs. It's been proven time and time again.

    5 rings is > 0 rings every day of the week. Magic went to the Finals 9 times - winning 5 of them. Would have been 7 wins if not for a few key injuries. LeHype will never play in 9 Finals and you can quote me on that. Magic played in 9 Finals in his 13 years. Kobe played in 7 Finals out of his 14 years. LeHype? A lucky 1 in 7. Ring Tally: Kobe 5, Magic 5, LeHype: 0

    His only trip to the Finals saw him getting swept. Stats are lies I tell you, damn lies.
    Compare the Cavs of the past seven years to the showtime Lakers or any of Kobe's championship years. There's a huge difference. Lebron has never played with anyone close to the caliber of Gasol, prime Shaq, Kareem, Worthy, etc. One man can't win a le. Just ask Kobe during the Kwame Brown and Smush Parker years. Lebron got swept by the Spurs because he was playing 1 on 5.

    I'm not suggesting that Lebron is as good as Magic. But he certainly has the tools and the skill to be one of the best playmakers in the game today. And I think he'll be happy to set up his teammates instead of having to carry the offensive load all on his own like he's had to do, and that's why people are saying that he'll be in more of a Magic Johnson role on the Heat.

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    Compare the Cavs of the past seven years to the showtime Lakers or any of Kobe's championship years. There's a huge difference. Lebron has never played with anyone close to the caliber of Gasol, prime Shaq, Kareem, Worthy, etc. One man can't win a le. Just ask Kobe during the Kwame Brown and Smush Parker years. Lebron got swept by the Spurs because he was playing 1 on 5.

    I'm not suggesting that Lebron is as good as Magic. But he certainly has the tools and the skill to be one of the best playmakers in the game today. And I think he'll be happy to set up his teammates instead of having to carry the offensive load all on his own like he's had to do, and that's why people are saying that he'll be in more of a Magic Johnson role on the Heat.
    lol "Caliber of Gasol"

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    LakerFan getting butthurt like they're supposed to when someone mentions Magic. No surprises here

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    You can never win against the Lakers in coversation!!

    You can't compare their HOFer's to other players but they have the right to compare Kobe being better than MJ.. You'll never win!!

    Also with Lebron, A lot of people will hate even if he gets a ring because Lebron haters will always say he won with wade and bosh...

    I'll just sit back and relax and will watch the most entertaining NBA games next season!! Heat will be the talk of ESPN for many years to come..

    I just hope Duncan will win another one!! GO SPURS GO!!!

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