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    The free golf carts I got with the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act were made in Korea....

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    Irrelevant. It passed. It is under way.
    Nah, it's not irrelevant, because many Americans disapprove. Just because the signs are made doesn't mean people have to approve of them, like them, stand behind the act that paid for them, or anything else.

    Again, your argument betrays your view of politics as a big spectator sport. It's not a "Congrats Los Angeles Lakers" billboard in San Antonio. It's a notice of a public project that is happening whether Republicans voted for it or not.
    Eh, you're free to make assumptions, however wrong they may be.






    You present the idea that passers-by would look up more information on the act as though it were a bad thing. If they choose to vote one way or another based on their understanding of the terms of the stimulus, that's their choice.
    where have I even implied anything such as the bolded. Please, come with something tangible, friend.

    My argument is hinging on the fact it's a politicization through reasoning, NOT any personal beliefs or allegiances. I've made no mention of any negative aspects or connotations of people researching into it; I've consistently made it clear I have no problem with the message. Why do you assume things and jump to conclusions without any reasoning?

    If they learned something about it that they didn't know, great. But in today's media environment they're just as likely to Google an article blasting the Democrats for the Stimulus as they are to find one praising them.
    Agreed; I think this will cause many people to google the act, which will bring knowledge about the two party's arguments concerning it.

    Since it (obviously passed), one presumes many people will find the Democrat's arguments more convincing, as well. That's JMO, though.

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    How would you suggest the sign read?
    Would you please argue first, why such signs should be put up on the road in the first place? I approve of the message's attempt at informing, but I think their existence is entirely unnecessary. People should be aware of this kind of knowledge through more direct methodology (which should be and in many cases, is govt sponsored, I think): online, in newspapers and books, and in their local library/college. 950 of these signs ($665,000) could have been spent better, not on signs, but on entirely different media altogether. I'm sure there's plenty of other jobs that could have been made with this money, IOW, and been a more effective usage of the stimulus cash.

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    Yes, they are jobs. However, make it so it isn't a political message. It absolutely, without doubt, is spending tax payer dollars for advertising that their party did something.

    I hope someone is within their right to sue over this. Maybe the DNC should have to pay for of such signs.
    How about when the Republicans put Americans back to work they can make fancy signs too?

    Compared to funding aimless wars in the middle east and buying brand new benches for every park in Montana...I don't think these signs are too much to pay for.

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    The free golf carts I got with the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act were made in Korea....
    LOL They sold $7,000,000 of them. I need to get some Obama bobbleheads for the carts.

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    Don't forget about your socialized government sponsored Rascal Scooters either, Tea Baggers.

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    Eh, you're free to make assumptions, however wrong they may be.

    My argument is hinging on the fact it's a politicization through reasoning, NOT any personal beliefs or allegiances.
    Based on your assumptions, however wrong they may be.

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    Based on your assumptions, however wrong they may be.
    Prove one of these "assumptions" is wrong.

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    it's a politicization through reasoning
    Ughhh... That's the worse kind.

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    Ughhh... That's the worse kind.
    Not. There's far worse political propaganda that is aimed only at harming and destroying reputations over votes. That's much worse than pointing out in large lettering 950 times "We won, see these supposedly great things happening because of that fact?"

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    Ughhh... That's the worse kind.
    ^ Sarcasm

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    Prove one of these "assumptions" is wrong.
    Your assumption: Signs should not be made concerning the funding of highway projects if the law providing the funding was opposed by a number of people.

    That assumption is completely and undeniably wrong.

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    So, 1 trillion dollars lowered unemployment by how much?

    Maybe this is why BHO (mmm mmm mmm) has such high approval numbers.

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    Your assumption: Signs should not be made concerning the funding of highway projects if the law providing the funding was opposed by a number of people.
    I made no such assumption, nor tried, nor implied.

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    I made no such assumption, nor tried, nor implied.
    Of course you did. It's the basis of your whole "argument."

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    Maybe the DOJ will need to hire some temps for their Arizona lawsuit?

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    Maybe the DOJ will need to hire some temps for their Arizona lawsuit?
    Maybe your butt will stop hurting someday.

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    Not.

    It's the basis of your whole "argument."
    The basis for my argument is not "Signs should not be made concerning the funding of highway projects if the law providing the funding was opposed by a number of people."

    Find one quote where I state that the signs should not have been made because a number of people opposed it.

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    I'm sure some temp employees will be needed to administer unemployment benefits.

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    Did.

    The basis for my argument is not "Signs should not be made concerning the funding of highway projects if the law providing the funding was opposed by a number of people."

    Find one quote where I state that the signs should not have been made because a number of people opposed it.
    You want me to quote your post?

    You forgot composing it?

    I believe it.

    You assume that it could only be a political sign because it was made and people opposed it, but signs like that are made all the time whether people oppose the laws or not.

    It could just be the kind of sign that is always made -- you assumed it is different somehow.

    You have proved nothing but your ability to make faulty assumptions.

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    I'm sure some temp employees will be needed to administer unemployment benefits.
    Still hurts, eh?

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    I approve of the message's attempt at informing, but I think their existence is entirely unnecessary. People should be aware of this kind of knowledge through more direct methodology
    I don't think the signs should have been made, not because they are politicizations, and not because a large number of people opposed it; the reason I brought the latter up is to help prove the politicization is occurring. Indeed, the signs should not have been made, because other avenues exist that would have been better suited for the stimulus cash if informing people about the stimulus plan's benefits was the public goal in this case, as it clearly is.

    I've stated this rather clearly.

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    Who gives a about some stupid signs? You guys realize the economy still sucks, right? This roller coaster is just about to take another dive.

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    I'm sure some temp employees will be needed to administer unemployment benefits.

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    FIFY

    You want me to quote your post?
    Yes.

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