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  1. 07-16-2010 #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakaluva
    Cavs fans said that too. You got the same role player they had.
    Cavs are garbage without LeBron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheKingOfMIA6
    Cavs are garbage with or without LeQuit.
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    I wouldnt like Joel Anthony, or any 6'8" C going up against Bynum/Gasol.. he would be a nice energy/hustle bench option though. I would be more comfortable starting the rotting corpse of Jamaal Magloire alongside Chris Bosh if i were planning on beating the Lakers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mystargtr34
    if i were planning on beating the Lakers.
    Don't sweat it, daddy-O, yer days of that kind of planning went away when you let Amare help Grandpappy Duncan up in the midst of that skunk-a-roo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giuseppe
    Don't sweat it, daddy-O, yer days of that kind of planning went away when you let Amare help Grandpappy Duncan up in the midst of that skunk-a-roo.
    You know how dead skunks are. They will never ever rid thimselves of that stink. Never!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    The injury concerns with Wade are legitimate. He has not completed a full 82 games season in 7 years as a pro. Like I said, I wish him the best of health.
    he did these past 2 seasons.

    spoelstra rested him. he didn't get injured
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    Yeah, that backcourt needs some work. I mean, you could play LeBron as PG, but then you would be missing your starting SF.

    Look at the PG who has been on the last 2 le teams. The teams that have role players at point are the teams that win in the playoffs, as long as he plays good D (which he does), Chalmers won't be why they lose.

    The role players/supporting cast won't be an issue for this team. Everyone had these same concerns about Boston in 2008(their starting PG sucks, they have no bench, etc.), when you have a truly complete, capable big 3 then one dimensional role players suddenly look a lot better. The ball is in the court of Lebron and Bosh regarding whether or not Miami can win it all this year.
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  8. 07-16-2010 #58
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    When was the last time a PG led a team to a Championship?

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    Btw everyone lets not give HarlemHeat and MiamiHeat ammunition with "you guys don't have a center". In the event Lebron comes up short ONCE AGAIN, I don't want Lebronfan to be able to pull the card, "But he had no center "
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    lol TheKingOfMiA6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goran Dragic
    Btw everyone lets not give HarlemHeat and MiamiHeat ammunition with "you guys don't have a center". In the event Lebron comes up short ONCE AGAIN, I don't want Lebronfan to be able to pull the card, "But he had no center "
    It wont matter... he has promised to vanish should they not win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goran Dragic
    Btw everyone lets not give HarlemHeat and MiamiHeat ammunition with "you guys don't have a center". In the event Lebron comes up short ONCE AGAIN, I don't want Lebronfan to be able to pull the card, "But he had no center "
    No, it was for the kids
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Bynum
    lol TheKingOfMiA6
    its TheKingOfMIA6
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    Capitalize the "I" stupid
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakaluva
    Aside from the big three, Boston brought tough minded clutch shooters that also played defense. Posey was a lock down defender. PJ Brown was huge. Sam and House were huge. Rajon, Big Baby, Powe and Pekrins were just an added bonus. That Boston team was loaded, (I wanted to say stacked, but Mavfan have gayafied the term).

    My point was that being tough and playing good defense starts at the top. Rondo, Powe, Perkins, and House were completely unestablished defenders headed into 2008, their great defense was due to KG, Pierce and Allen being the anchors of the D and establishing a defense first culture. If Lebron, Bosh and Wade don't come in and establish a defensive mindset like they did but rather want the Heat to be an uptempo team that scores 120 points per game, the role players won't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheKingOfMIA6
    its TheKingOfMIA6
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    Capitalize the "I" stupid
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    Me and my homies are gonna all over that Miami FC. Cakewalk to the threepeat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Bynum
    Me and my homies are gonna all over that Miami FC. Cakewalk to the threepeat.
    How are your knees holding up, Drew? When is your surgery???
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakaluva
    Let's not forget something. That team was anchored by it's front line. I remember people saying it was the greatest defensive team ever, although Zeke'a Pistons would beg to differ. When I was recruiting Bosh, you all kept reminding me that he was one off the worst defensive bigs in the league. Add him next to Howard, Joel and Big Z and it's a layup fest. They have a nice core, but teams like LA, Orlando, and Boston are too well rounded.

    Yup, and that great front line that made the right rotations every time and made it impossible for pick and rolls to be effective started and ended with KG anchoring it and making every other PF or C on that team fall in line with Thibodeau's system. Bosh is nowhere near the defender KG is as a player, and he's especially nowhere near the leader KG is on D. Boston's perimeter D was plenty important too, and the transformation there was Pierce going from an average defender his entire career to a lockdown defender. If Lebron and Bosh don't step up their D like Pierce and KG did it's the layup fest you're talking about.
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    Are you guys comparing Mario Chalmers with Rajon Rondo? Really?
    And if anything, I was criticizing the short depth at SG, which would potentially force Chalmers to play the 2, Lebron to play PG and probably Mike Miller playing SF.

    Again, if everybody is healthy, this shouldn't be a concern. I also understand that due to the signings of the three amigos there's not a lot of money left to get great players at every position. I don't think Miami needs CP3, I just think Stack is very suspect, that's all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    Are you guys comparing Mario Chalmers with Rajon Rondo? Really?

    No one's comparing Chalmers with current day Rajon Rondo. 2008 Rondo on the other hand was not that much better than Chalmers, if at all. They aren't really comparable, but Chalmers compliments Lebron and Wade as well as Rondo complimented Pierce and Allen back in 2008. Chalmers had a sop re slump this year but he can defend well enough and he's got a track record of clutch ass shots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    Are you guys comparing Mario Chalmers with Rajon Rondo? Really?
    And if anything, I was criticizing the short depth at SG, which would potentially force Chalmers to play the 2, Lebron to play PG and probably Mike Miller playing SF.

    Again, if everybody is healthy, this shouldn't be a concern. I also understand that due to the signings of the three amigos there's not a lot of money left to get great players at every position. I don't think Miami needs CP3, I just think Stack is very suspect, that's all.
    Chalmers is a better defender than Rajon Rondo.

    and he's also a better 3-pt shooter than Rajon Rondo.

    he doesn't need to do anything else. With LeBron and Wade, he will not have any ball handling duties.
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    Idk about Chalmers being a better defender than Rondo but he's certainly a better shooter. It's a wash really. Pierce and Allen needed Rondo's help on D more than Lebron and Wade should need good D from Chalmers, while Lebron and Wade will need shooting from Chalmers more than Pierce and Allen need from Rondo.
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    Rondo and Chalmers are two very diferent PGs.

    Rondo cant shoot for while Chalmers is clutch as

    Rondo is good at getting triple doubles while Chalmers aint no where near that.

    Only similaraty between two is defense although Rondo is still better than him at that.
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  25. 07-17-2010 #75
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    Rondo wasn't dropping (or sniffing for that matter) triple doubles in 2008.
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