Noooo, Spurs re-sign Bonner

[ploto]

I would wager that Bonner's contract is partially guaranteed for the 4th year- just like they did with Bowen and Dice. He will play 3 years and they will pay half the fourth year salary to buy him out. What looks like 4 years and almost $14M will be 3 years and $12M in actuality.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Resigning Bonner at all is the dumbest thing the Spurs could have done. TP and TD are gone, first opportunity they get.

These guys are champions, they are not going to sit around and let this loser (Matt Bonner) pull them down. Bonner is sorry, he has always been sorry and he is going to always be sorry.

Keep him around will not get the Spurs a Championship.

Don't be surprised if TD is in Miami when his contract is up.

You heard it here first.

This is just sill talk. First of all, there is only one player on the Spurs' roster who deserves to have any say whatsoever on who the team should go after or retain - Tim Duncan. The team has other GREAT players that have worked hard with the team and have given their all (namely Parker and Ginobili), but I'm sure even they realize that this is the way things should be. While Tim may be the "anti-LeBron", you can bet that he still carries a GREAT deal of weight with the organization and they confer with him before making most decisions when it comes to player acquisition. This means that, as much as many here dislike the retention of Bonner, Duncan likely signed off on the decision. I'm sure didn't approach the FO and say "We have to keep Bonner at all costs!", but you can bet that he was at least content with the decision - meaning that it's not going to chase him off or anger him to the point of early retirement.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

This is just sill talk. First of all, there is only one player on the Spurs' roster who deserves to have any say whatsoever on who the team should go after or retain - Tim Duncan. The team has other GREAT players that have worked hard with the team and have given their all (namely Parker and Ginobili), but I'm sure even they realize that this is the way things should be. While Tim may be the "anti-LeBron", you can bet that he still carries a GREAT deal of weight with the organization and they confer with him before making most decisions when it comes to player acquisition. This means that, as much as many here dislike the retention of Bonner, Duncan likely signed off on the decision. I'm sure didn't approach the FO and say "We have to keep Bonner at all costs!", but you can bet that he was at least content with the decision - meaning that it's not going to chase him off or anger him to the point of early retirement.

Way too sensible post for this thread.

[GhosTown]

This is just sill talk. First of all, there is only one player on the Spurs' roster who deserves to have any say whatsoever on who the team should go after or retain - Tim Duncan. The team has other GREAT players that have worked hard with the team and have given their all (namely Parker and Ginobili), but I'm sure even they realize that this is the way things should be. While Tim may be the "anti-LeBron", you can bet that he still carries a GREAT deal of weight with the organization and they confer with him before making most decisions when it comes to player acquisition. This means that, as much as many here dislike the retention of Bonner, Duncan likely signed off on the decision. I'm sure didn't approach the FO and say "We have to keep Bonner at all costs!", but you can bet that he was at least content with the decision - meaning that it's not going to chase him off or anger him to the point of early retirement.

If TD or TP signed off on bringing this loser back, then they are fools too. Why would TD want to kill himself trying to make up for Bonner's defensive weakness? Bringing Bonner back was just one more dumb ass move by the FO that followed a host of dumb ass moves. Cutting/trading Bowen for RJ , not signing Tyrus Thomas, letting Ian go instead of Bonner. And not trading Mason when he begged for it, but instead lets Finley go for nothing. Letting Scola get away, and then this dumbass move takes the cake.

If TD or TP were ok with this move, then they probably already made up their minds to leave SA when their contracts expire. They are not the type of people to begrudge Bonner's contract eventhough they know he didn't deserve it. I could see them leaving SA before they made an ill comment toward any teammate or coach. Even one as sorry as Bonner or dumb as Pop.

[Kindergarten Cop]

If TD or TP signed off on bringing this loser back, then they are fools too. Why would TD want to kill himself trying to make up for Bonner's defensive weakness? Bringing Bonner back was just one more dumb ass move by the FO that followed a host of dumb ass moves. Cutting/trading Bowen for RJ , not signing Tyrus Thomas, letting Ian go instead of Bonner. And not trading Mason when he begged for it, but instead lets Finley go for nothing. Letting Scola get away, and then this dumbass move takes the cake.

If TD or TP were ok with this move, then they probably already made up their minds to leave SA when their contracts expire. They are not the type of people to begrudge Bonner's contract eventhough they know he didn't deserve it. I could see them leaving SA before they made an ill comment toward any teammate or coach. Even one as sorry as Bonner or dumb as Pop.

You are absolutely right on all accounts. You obviously have a better grasp on what it takes to be a Championship-caliber team than the Spurs' brass. It's apparent that you know more about the players and their presence in the locker room than Duncan. Your statements about Bowen and Finley are what honestly convinced me that you know what you're talking about.

BTW, you're likely right about Duncan leaving when his contract expires - since he has already stated that he will likely retire.

[barbacoataco]

As much as I have hated on Bonner, their is statistical evidence that he isn't that bad.

[Xevious]

I wish Bonner would stay glued to the bench and his salary would come off the books. That said, after watching his latest interview on SDC, I'm reminded just how down-to-earth and cool he is. It's nice to see somebody like him be successful.

[GhosTown]

You are absolutely right on all accounts. You obviously have a better grasp on what it takes to be a Championship-caliber team than the Spurs' brass. It's apparent that you know more about the players and their presence in the locker room than Duncan. Your statements about Bowen and Finley are what honestly convinced me that you know what you're talking about.

BTW, you're likely right about Duncan leaving when his contract expires - since he has already stated that he will likely retire.

You know the thing about having good players is sometimes you can get away with dumb decisions and they still make you look good for a while but at some point your dumbness will even wear on them and the team. Well guess what? The Spurs are at that point. The Spurs don't have room for dumb decisions any more, TD is older and he can't make all the plays. How about a little ing help from the FO and our Super Intelligent Coach. People like you who keep making excuses for the FO and Pop should shut up. There are some moves that even the most loyalest of loyal can defend. Resigning Bonner's SORRY ASS is one of them.

[ElNono]

I wish Bonner would stay glued to the bench and his salary would come off the books. That said, after watching his latest interview on SDC, I'm reminded just how down-to-earth and cool he is. It's nice to see somebody like him be successful.

That's true. However, he can still be cool and a good guy while playing for the Clippers. Oh well.

[Kindergarten Cop]

You know the thing about having good players is sometimes you can get away with dumb decisions and they still make you look good for a while but at some point your dumbness will even wear on them and the team. Well guess what? The Spurs are at that point. The Spurs don't have room for dumb decisions any more, TD is older and he can't make all the plays. How about a little ing help from the FO and our Super Intelligent Coach. People like you who keep making excuses for the FO and Pop should shut up. There are some moves that even the most loyalest of loyal can defend. Resigning Bonner's SORRY ASS is one of them.

You honestly feel that resigning Matt Bonner is the ultimate decision that has broken the proverbial back of this franchise? Please don't paint me as a fan that "makes excuses" for the FO, because I haven't. I am just reasonable enough to admit that the FO knows more than I do when it comes to these kinds of decisions, which is not the case with you. Is the FO perfect? Not even close. Are they better than most in the NBA? Absolutely. Pop and RC are among the elite at their positions, which I believe is inarguable.

As for getting "help from the FO and our Super Intelligent Coach" - wouldn't you classify signing Splitter exactly what the doctor ordered? You mention letting Finley go as one of the FO's blunders? Really? And now the Bonner argument - I admit that I honestly do not think this is as bad of a decision as most are making it out to be. It's not like the money used to sign Bonner could have been used on someone else, because it didn't use up any of the money we otherwise have available. The issue, IMHO, is that Bonner has seen too many minutes as a starter and going up against other teams starting 4s and 5s - which will not be the case now with Splitter. Bonner is a bench player with a specific skill that the Spurs drastically need.

[GhosTown]

Giving Finley away for free is the problem I have with that move, but I didn't mind him leaving, he was too old anyway. We should have packaged him in a trade and got something, anything, but don't let him walk for nothing.

As for the front office, they WERE good. Over the past few years they have screwed up a lot. So I can't give them any credit as long as Matt ing Bonner is a Spur and that looks like another 4 years. We won't win in that time. No Division, no conference, and no les if that sorry ass is playing for us.

What I am saying is plain and simple. Bonner is the reason we lose. Check the stats. In the losses, you will see Bonner played too many minutes.

[Strike]

I would wager that Bonner's contract is partially guaranteed for the 4th year- just like they did with Bowen and Dice. He will play 3 years and they will pay half the fourth year salary to buy him out. What looks like 4 years and almost $14M will be 3 years and $12M in actuality.

Still about 3 years and $12 too much.

[Death In June]

Any word on Bonners contract details yet? These rumors that have the FO overpaying (again) for RJ and Bonner are making me uncomfortable.

[benefactor]

Looking at both the RJ and Bonner thread on the front page is like taking a bite out of a sandwich.

[ElNono]

Looking at both the RJ and Bonner thread on the front page is like taking a bite out of a sandwich.

Reminds me of:

[Mel_13]

With apologies to the writers of one of the great American movie scenes.

Setting: A luncheon hosted by the Spurs for Season Ticket Holders who have not yet renewed for 2010-11. Coach Pop takes questions from the fans....

Disgruntled Spurs Fan (DSF): Coach Popovich! Did you overplay the "big red?!!"

Peter Holt: You don't have to answer that question!

Coach Popovich (Pop): I'll answer the question. You want answers?

DSF: I think I'm en led to them.

Pop: You want answers?!

DSF: I want the truth!

Pop: You can't handle the truth!

Son, we live in a world that has balls, and those balls have to be hoisted by big men with red hair. Who's gonna do it? You? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Mahinmi, and you curse the Front Office. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that Mahinmi's loss, while tragic, probably saved wins; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves wins.

You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about on internet message boards, you want Matt to shoot that ball -- you need Matt to shoot that ball.

We use words like "stretch four," "PER," "plus/minus." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very basketball greatness that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it.

I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you buy a ticket and stand up and cheer. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think you're en led to!

DSF: Did you overplay the "big red?"

Pop: I did the job I was –

DSF: -- Did you overplay the "big red?!"

Pop: You're god damn right I did!!!

[Obstructed_View]

[TJastal]

With apologies to the writers of one of the great American movie scenes.

Setting: A luncheon hosted by the Spurs for Season Ticket Holders who have not yet renewed for 2010-11. Coach Pop takes questions from the fans....

Disgruntled Spurs Fan (DSF): Coach Popovich! Did you overplay the "big red?!!"

Peter Holt: You don't have to answer that question!

Coach Popovich (Pop): I'll answer the question. You want answers?

DSF: I think I'm en led to them.

Pop: You want answers?!

DSF: I want the truth!

Pop: You can't handle the truth!

Son, we live in a world that has balls, and those balls have to be hoisted by big men with red hair. Who's gonna do it? You? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Mahinmi, and you curse the Front Office. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know -- that Mahinmi's loss, while tragic, probably saved wins; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves wins.

You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about on internet message boards, you want Matt to shoot that ball -- you need Matt to shoot that ball.

We use words like "stretch four," "PER," "plus/minus." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very basketball greatness that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it.

I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you buy a ticket and stand up and cheer. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think you're en led to!

DSF: Did you overplay the "big red?"

Pop: I did the job I was –

DSF: -- Did you overplay the "big red?!"

Pop: You're god damn right I did!!!

[LongtimeSpursFan]

That s hilarious. Now if you can only post that same scene on Youtube with a voice over.

[analyzed]

One thing the Spurs would want to avoid, is to spend half the season figuring out their rotation. If you remember last year the Spurs played a lot better when Finley left and guys like Bogans and Hill knew they were going to get minutes and when. Players play a lot better when they know their going to play and with who. If Blair knows he is coming of the bench late in the 1st with Manu on the court, he probably will know how to play as compared to second guessing if he or Bonner is coming in to play. Pls no, by now Pop must have figured out who can do what. no more experimenting please

[Obstructed_View]

One thing the Spurs would want to avoid, is to spend half the season figuring out their rotation. If you remember last year the Spurs played a lot better when Finley left and guys like Bogans and Hill knew they were going to get minutes and when. Players play a lot better when they know their going to play and with who. If Blair knows he is coming of the bench late in the 1st with Manu on the court, he probably will know how to play as compared to second guessing if he or Bonner is coming in to play. Pls no, by now Pop must have figured out who can do what. no more experimenting please

The way I remember it, the Spurs played a lot better when Manu showed up and was one of the top players in the league.

[Bruno]

Sham has Bonner's contract details:
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...ries/spurs.jsp

4 years, $13.89M:
10-11: $3,000,000
11-12: $3,315,000
12-13: $3,630,000
13-14: $3,945,000

The last year is $1M guaranteed and becomes fully guaranteed on June 29th 2013.

[Chieflion]

Sham has Bonner's contract details:
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...ries/spurs.jsp

4 years, $13.89M:
10-11: $3,000,000
11-12: $3,315,000
12-13: $3,630,000
13-14: $3,945,000

The last year is $1M guaranteed and becomes fully guaranteed on June 29th 2013.

This looks a lot better now because of the last year.

[baseline bum]

Sham has Bonner's contract details:
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...ries/spurs.jsp

4 years, $13.89M:
10-11: $3,000,000
11-12: $3,315,000
12-13: $3,630,000
13-14: $3,945,000

The last year is $1M guaranteed and becomes fully guaranteed on June 29th 2013.

Damn, did they give Jack Haley a 4 year deal back in the day too?

[Muser]

If only I was a foot taller i'd be rich.