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Zosa, if you think these signs are political in nature, tell me, what act done by a politician WOULDN'T be political?
What standard?
Zosa, if you think these signs are political in nature, tell me, what act done by a politician WOULDN'T be political?
It's one way to inform the taxpayer what their money is going to pay for.
Hm, maybe some Republicans should've voted for it. After all, you must think that the act is viewed positively by the majority, otherwise, why would you care about the sign? A sign that said, "Dems are dumb for funding this" probably wouldn't raise your blood pressure too much, would it?
Laws and acts passed by politicians tend to have political ramifications, wow that's a ing zinger and a half.Zosa, if you think these signs are political in nature, tell me, what act done by a politician WOULDN'T be political?
that's because my earlier post awnsered the question already.
Nice reading fail.
Except it didn't.
Nice posting fail.
cept I did, moron redemption fail.
Except you didn't.
Rebuttal fail.
Unless you are saying you think the market is still overvalued -- which would just be hilarious.
Is that what you are saying?
Now means present, as in today the market is overvalued.
You're too much of an idiot to know these things.
LOL Chumpdumper doesn't know the meaning of now
LOL Chumpdumper doesn't understand credit markets.
As I said, that is hilarious.
How are they pimping DNC platforms? They inform people what their money is being spent on completely objectively. It's entirely up to them to decide if it's a good investment or not.
Which market is overvalued? The stock market? The real estate market?
Either way, the stimulus bill isn't trying to stimulate a market, it's trying to stimulate the overall economy. And 9% unemployment doesn't mean is hasn't worked when you consider the rate of job loss at the end of 2008, if it had continued at that pace without any intervention, then the unemployment rate would be a of a lot higher than 9%. It's not a panacea bill, it's a stimulus bill.
Are you serious? Just read my posts again. Damn.
You said you don't have a problem with the message. You said the people should be informed. How would you do it? That's all I'm asking.They should pour such cash into many different sectors, like expanding online sources and libraries/colleges. Government should be an important part of every American's life, but often, it isn't except Election year (or month or day or never, for many). This money could go into some novel plans, I'd think, like sending Americans to a govt college course free of individual charge (just an idea).
I'm averse to writing a professional estimate, sorry. I'm simply converting what was paid here, to doing other things. $665,000 in the pool of money to be drawn from.
Hahaha, I guess? Again, I only ever intended to convert the money we spent to other ways; a hypothetical is this we're discussing now.
Is that the requirment for propaganda??
It's usually a part of "campaign commercials" as these signs were labeled in the post I was replying to.
Campaign ads that don't tell you who to vote for, or even what party, are pretty lousy ads. But all of you guys complaining about it to the press are sure giving the Dems some generous free PR. Nice job!
Well, when I worked at the Multnomah County Electronics shop, right next to us was the county sign shop. They made all road signs, street signs, etc. Now i may be wrong, but I think all counties that are not small have their own. I'm pretty sure that will apply to the state highway departments too, or they contract with other government agencies. We did the work for the smaller towns in the area too. I didn't know of a single agency that contracted work to the public sector when they had union jobs with prevailing wages to support.
I'll bet it's the same in most states.
You would think they would only offer such incentives to products made in the USA if the intent was to kickstart the economy rather than give well off people free products.The free golf carts I got with the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act were made in Korea....
That sign was probably paid for by the contractors. On top if that, the interstate project was not anywhere close to having the same controversy. There was partisan bickering about amendments, but in the end, it was a bipartisan act.This kind of signage is completely unprecedented!
Putting up signs to marking stimulus results is unacceptable to right-wingers
but forcing US Attorneys to implement Repug political plank of "routing out widespread voter fraud" is wonderful (rather than going after corrupt Repugs, that will get you fired (see San Diego))
You're full of .It's usually a part of "campaign commercials" as these signs were labeled in the post I was replying to.
Campaign ads that don't tell you who to vote for, or even what party, are pretty lousy ads. But all of you guys complaining about it to the press are sure giving the Dems some generous free PR. Nice job!
Propaganda doesn't need to have political party affiliation for it to be such.
You could have the same sign say, More americans die each month than in Iraq.
Cartoons have been used as propaganda, and they didn't necessarily have party affiliation to it.
People have been ing about texas textbooks going towards propaganda, but i guess if those textbooks don't flat out tell you who to vote for, then those people making those claims are all just being hysterical.
Propaganda isn't the same as a campaign commercial, which is what I was responding to. If you want to call it propaganda, I won't argue it. But calling it propaganda doesn't make it pro-Democrat/anti-Republican. And in this situation, it doesn't make it a bad thing either.
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You're missing my point. If they put the money towards, say, some other program to inform the taxpayer, then it would still be "propaganda" as you put it. I see no way to inform the public of works being built without it having a political undertone.
WC knows because he's actually one of the guys in that picture
I'll save you some bet money then...
The logo design was made by the private sector. More here:
http://www.underconsideration.com/br...ad_to_reco.php
The government also solicited the sign manufacturing relating to ARRA, at least for the forest service:
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportun...387d8&_cview=1
http://www.recovery.org/projectdetai...=California*CA
There's also Private sector companies offering ARRA sign manufacturing too, like Avalanche Sign Manufacturing:
http://arrasigns.com/arra/logo/
But besides of the signs, money from ARRA did go indeed to the private sector, for example a $2.3 billion tax credits handed by the DOE to private companies...
http://www.pvgroup.org/NewsArchive/CTR_034067
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