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    Hopefully the Spurs are just throwing James Jones' name out there as a CIA move to protect their real target in Barnes

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    Hopefully the Spurs are just throwing James Jones' name out there as a CIA move to protect their real target in Barnes



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    McGrady or Howard would be great. Butler would be good. Barnes or Jones would be acceptable.

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    Finley made it pretty clear after he left the Spurs that he's not happy with Pop's micromanaging and questionable roster decisions. He didn't have a problem with it when he was benefitting from it, but that ship has long sailed.
    Regardless of how "streaky" he was (another word for sucking ass) Pop pushed him out there, over and over and over... playoff games especially, believing in him. His vet with "great character" would shine for him because he believed in him. But when he sucked, Pop continued to give him the benefit of the doubt even as we pulled our hair out.

    Then he goes out like that. How easily he forgot.

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    Dudley on the Suns is a guy i think the Spurs should try to target with S&T if they can. Phoenix is one of the teams RJ can actually produce on...Dudley works for us obviously. probably a pipe dream.

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    MacDonald is really confused

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    Plan is to ink both RJ and Jones, I think. Don't see anyone else offering RJ what #spurs can, unless the Clippers get nutty. @VI_Massive

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    I don't know what any of those words mean. RT @aamcneill Indeed it is Common. Though Kanye did the beat.

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    MacDonald is really confused

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    Plan is to ink both RJ and Jones, I think. Don't see anyone else offering RJ what #spurs can, unless the Clippers get nutty. @VI_Massive

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    I don't know what any of those words mean. RT @aamcneill Indeed it is Common. Though Kanye did the beat.
    I think McDonald doesn't have any sources

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    Plan is to ink both RJ and Jones
    Most likely. If the Spurs are looking at Jones or whatever D-League scrub to start at the 3 they might as well start rebuilding.

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    McGrady or Howard would be great. Butler would be good. Barnes or Jones would be acceptable.
    This depends on what you are hoping for from them. If as a backup to RJ, Butler and Jones are your only two decent choices. The others' risk outweighs their benefit, especially McGrady's pouting by December and Barnes' tweeting in the 4th quarter of any random game because he isn't getting any burn. For the backup role, you need a quality personality like Butler, or a one-trick pony like Jones, to understand their standing on the team.

    BUT, if you are looking for someone who can replace RJ, and potentially be a starting SF on a team with championship aspirations, then you need to gamble on Howard or Barnes, maaaaaaaybe Butler or McGrady. I believe that a career year from Barnes, or a return-to-form year for Howard, could indeed provide enough umph to make the Spurs at least compe ive with the top-tier teams.

    The other factor involved here is the reality that while RJ is the best player available at the SF position, there is a catch-22 dilemma involved in bringing him back. You either have to pay him enough to make him happy and thereby end up with a hideous contract that the team rues in two years, or you pay him market value that causes him to throw a contract-long tantrum where he constantly sulks and is more ineffective than he was last year. It is because of this no-win situation that I think the Spurs are better served as an organization to try and find a suitable starting replacement for RJ, rather than bringing him back.

    Of course, if you add up all of the great decisions I have made for an NBA team, coupled with all of my years of experience working in a pro sports front office (NBA 2K excluded), you end up with the same number as the many millions that I am worth...so whadda I know.

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    Depending on who you talk to, Spurs are waiting on RJ or RJ is waiting on Spurs. @VI_Massive

    Piecing together various pieces of intel RT @ReigningBlack Is that a gut feel or have you heard anything more with regards to RJ and Jones?

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    Out of the rest of the available SF FA (no specific order):

    1. Josh Howard (Injury concern)
    2. Matt Barnes
    3. Rasual Butler
    4. James Jones
    5. Tracy McGrady (Injury concern)

    I have a strange feeling the Spurs might try and sign Bostjan Nachbar

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    Matt Barnes has to be gone from Orlando, right? We can't offer him much money, but we may not have to. I'm hopeful anyway.

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    Cavs have been in contact with free agent forward Matt Barnes, sources say.
    Tom Withers: Cavs have had talks with reps. for several free agents, including Flip Murray and Matt Barnes. Team is being patient.

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    i just dont see barnes coming here dont know why really

    i guess Jjones would be ok as long as rj is back jones could provide another shooter off the pine

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    Out of the rest of the available SF FA (no specific order

    I have a strange feeling the Spurs might try and sign Bostjan Nachbar
    good possibility!

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    i just dont see barnes coming here dont know why really
    Em oh en ee why.

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    McDonald about RJ

    Agree. And I think the Spurs want him back, so that's probably what will end up happening. @ReigningBlack

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    My list of available Free Agent SF's

    1) Rasual Butler
    2) Matt Barnes
    3) Josh Howard
    4) James Jones

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    New Teams Enter Race For Barnes

    Matt Barnes expected to announce on Friday where he'd sign as a free agent, but the forward's agent says the decision has been delayed.

    Aaron Goodwin says additional teams have become involved since it became clear that the Magic will not re-sign Barnes.

    "Couple new teams just jumped n2 the game, so I'm sorry 2 say ima have 2 get back 2 you. Ill let yall know something with in the nxt few days," Barnes tweeted on Friday afternoon.

    Via Orlando Sentinel

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    I'm really hoping the fact we haven't heard about Spurs' and Butler is that they are working a CIA Pop move. If not, I have no idea why they aren't going there with the rest of the MLE.

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    If not, I have no idea why they aren't going there with the rest of the MLE.
    Same reason why they didn't go after Brewer..He's most likely out of the 2.3 million salary range.

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    Same reason why they didn't go after Brewer..He's most likely out of the 2.3 million salary range.
    I agree that Brewer is, but I think Butler could be had for that. Butler is 31, Brewer has a lot more career to play out.

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    I agree that Brewer is, but I think Butler could be had for that. Butler is 31, Brewer has a lot more career to play out.
    I'm not saying Butler is worth 4 million like Brewer, but he certainly is worth more than 2.3 million IMO.

    Bell's deal for 10 million over 3 years only helped his market value.

    Also..

    http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index....delonte_w.html

    "Also on the Cavs' list is forward Rasual Butler, who averaged 11.9 points and 2.9 rebounds for the Los Angeles Clippers. Sources also indicate the Cavs have interest in Antoine Wright, a solid defender who averaged 6.5 points for the Raptors last season, and former Cav Flip Murray, a scoring specialist who averaged 9.9 points with the Bobcats and Bulls in 2009-10."

    As you can see Cleveland is reported to be interested in Butler and they have over 9 million in cap space to give him certainly more than 2.3 million.

    Time will tell, but I'm willing to bet he nets more than 2.3 million with the Clippers or Cavaliers.

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    however, he'd have to play for the Clippers or Cavaliers.

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    If RJ isn't coming back, getting Barnes for decent money wouldn't be bad. I don't like him that much, though. I also think his D is overrated (still would be better than RJ's, of course).
    I don't think he's really going to end up with the Spurs, anyway.

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