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    Has Jeb Bush quit the New World Order?

    Jeb Bush to appear at Rand Paul fundraiser in Ky.

    Tea party favorite Rand Paul is getting help from a well-known Republican later this month, when Jeb Bush will attend a fundraiser for the Kentucky Senate candidate.

    Paul's campaign said Friday that the former Florida governor will attend the fundraiser July 26 at a private home in the Louisville area. Paul campaign manager Jesse Benton said tickets will start at $1,000 per person.Bush served two terms as Florida's governor, and he is the son and brother of former Republican presidents.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...5dyugD9H0AB7G0

    Who says we can't beat the NWO?



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    Great Bill Mahr urban-snob joke: The Bush family, where the SMART brother is named "Jeb".

    Looks like tea partier radical extremist, self-certifying (It's My Association) Rand Paul really is getting co-opted, willingly, by the Repug mucky-mucks.
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    You didn't get the memo about COMIC SANS?

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    Rand Paul is a lifelong member of the Republican party. What makes you think he isn't a member of the NWO?

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    Isn't it time to drop 'New' from the NWO?

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    During the primary season, Rand Paul pledged not to accept campaign donations from any lawmaker who voted for the Wall Street bailout. But little more than a month after he won the nomination, the GOP candidate was feted at a Washington fundraiser hosted by Senator Mitch McConnell and attended by eight other Republican senators who voted for the bill.
    http://theweek.com/article/index/204...ump-5-theories

    Welcome to the NWO, Rand.

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    Rand Paul isn't a fan of the whole Civil Rights thing.

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    sleeper agent

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    Rand can't help, it if people give him money. What better thing to do than impoverish these people?

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    Student of Liberty Galileo's Avatar
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    Rand Paul isn't a fan of the whole Civil Rights thing.
    Wrong. Rand is the srtongest defender of the Bill-of-Rights up for election in the Senate this fall. Rand is a Libertarian, a defender of liberty.

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    Rand can't help, it if people give him money.
    Sure he can. He can refuse their money and help very easily.
    What better thing to do than impoverish these people?
    He is clearly not impoverishing these people. The better thing to do would be for Rand to stick to his principles.

    He didn't.

    He's just another lying politician.

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    "defender of liberty"

    great slogan, for all the paranoid s imagining The Guvmint is coming after their liberty. Any practical "liberty" policy from Rand or any other right-winger?

    how about, keeping negroes out my business premises?

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    "defender of liberty"

    great slogan, for all the paranoid s imagining The Guvmint is coming after their liberty. Any practical "liberty" policy from Rand or any other right-winger?

    how about, keeping negroes out my business premises?
    Its not that simple. Libertarians would let businesses conduct racist practices because, under the principles of liberty, they have a right to do so.

    But they would also have the right to be sued under state law, to go bankrupt after massive protesting. And if the state wanted to back racist principles, they would face revolt from the citizens.

    The federal government is not the place to look for for help. Just ask the people people of louisiana.

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    Its not that simple. Libertarians would let businesses conduct racist practices because, under the principles of liberty, they have a right to do so.

    But they would also have the right to be sued under state law, to go bankrupt after massive protesting. And if the state wanted to back racist principles, they would face revolt from the citizens.

    The federal government is not the place to look for for help. Just ask the people people of louisiana.
    Look at the black kids who can eat at lunch counters.

    I doubt a true libertarian would make the distinction between federal and local government when it comes to anti-discrimination laws.

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    Wrong. Rand is the srtongest defender of the Bill-of-Rights up for election in the Senate this fall. Rand is a Libertarian, a defender of liberty.
    Are you saying the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is the same as the first ten amendments to the United States Cons ution (A.K.A. the Bill of Rights)?

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    Look at the black kids who can eat at lunch counters.

    I doubt a true libertarian would make the distinction between federal and local government when it comes to anti-discrimination laws.
    it aint the 1960s. I am all for civil rights, and I dont regret anything that has taken place in the past, but the centralized power in the federal government is out of control. The massive powers in the fed gov are like an abscessed tooth that needs to be pulled before the body is irreperably infected.

    Sure, you can reflect to all the use you got from that tooth, but if you just pull the damn thing, you will still be able to chew, and you wont find yourself on life support for being stubborn.

    And as for the distinction, you would be wrong. Libertarians believe that liberty=being represented locally, by those who can continue to be held accountable. When you ship the power off to Washington, there is no way to keep it in check, no way to hold those folks feet to the fire.

    It remains the principles that US was founded on, and as for me, oil spill in the gulf showed me everything I needed to know to understand that the fed gov is hopelessly lost.

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    And if the state wanted to back racist principles, they would face revolt from the citizens.
    Which state and in what year?

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    Look at the parallels between old england, the colonies, and now the states and washington. The peoples interests are no longer being represented by washington. Im not condoning revolt, Im saying we need to start electing candidates who will PULL THE DAMN TOOTH. Term limits. Saying no to federal spending on wars and pork, severing the dependence we are devolping on federal dollars that ultimately cause inflation and hurt the poor.

    Who better serves minorities...someone who would offer federal protections for thier rights, or someone who would keep the doolar strong so they could afford to raise a family?

    The answer is, the federal protections come with federal beaurocracy, and they come with a dildo, ready to minorities by reducing their quality of life.

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    it aint the 1960s. I am all for civil rights, and I dont regret anything that has taken place in the past, but the centralized power in the federal government is out of control.
    I think the Civil Rights Act is probably the poorest example of an "out of control" federal government anyone could possibly put forth.

    And as for the distinction, you would be wrong. Libertarians believe that liberty=being represented locally, by those who can continue to be held accountable.
    So libertarians would willingly give up their liberties as long as they were taken away locally?

    Nice.

    It remains the principles that US was founded on, and as for me, oil spill in the gulf showed me everything I needed to know to understand that the fed gov is hopelessly lost.
    Please explain.

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    I think the Civil Rights Act is probably the poorest example of an "out of control" federal government anyone could possibly put forth.
    Is the CRA a violation of private property rights, yes or no?

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    Are you saying the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is the same as the first ten amendments to the United States Cons ution (A.K.A. the Bill of Rights)?
    No, and that's the point. The CRA violates the Bill of right's concept of private property rights.

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    Is the CRA a violation of private property rights, yes or no?
    Rights codified in which law?

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    when the state tells you what you can and can't do with your private property, that is a violation of the principles of this country.

    I don't understand how some of you don't understand the concept of prinicples, and how good causes can sometimes be applied in the wrong way.

    CRA is an example of the violation of american principles, and how a good cause (racial progress) was used in the wrong way.

    Not saying you have to agree with me or Parker2112 in his own right. But that is where we are coming from.

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    Rights codified in which law?
    the fifth ammendment.

    And since you didn't know that, you proved were coming from an ignorant premise on the libertarian argument for the CRA.

    Glad I could educate you.

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    when the state tells you what you can and can't do with your private property, that is a violation of the principles of this country.
    They should have written that down if they thought it was that important.

    I don't understand how some of you don't understand the concept of prinicples, and how good causes can sometimes be applied in the wrong way.
    Principles are reflected in laws. If you want a pro-discrimination amendment, I suggest you contact your representatives in Congress.

    Not saying you have to agree with me or Parker2112 in his own right. But that is where we are coming from.
    I understand where you are coming from, but the principles are rarely inviolate -- as Rand Paul has been proving rather consistently of late.

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