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OK my bad, thanks for the correct information, but even with that being our financial situation, it is still plausible to do what I suggested. And if we do what I mentioned, how can it be said that we didn't improve our team vastly from a year ago.
ESPN got it wrong. See post #3 in this thread.
OK my bad, thanks for the correct information, but even with that being our financial situation, it is still plausible to do what I suggested. And if we do what I mentioned, how can it be said that we didn't improve our team vastly from a year ago.
I agree....
OK it's either resign RJ and sign Butler or Barnes or resign RJ and play Hairston/Gee.
I dont want the Spurs to sign another scrub and try to make him a rotation player (Morrison, Bogans).
There are a lot of potential outcomes to this. But the best one imo is...
Matt Barnes and Alonzo Gee. Look at this...
Tony Parker/George Hill
Manu Ginobili/James Anderson/Gary Neal
Matt Barnes/Alonzo Gee
Tim Duncan/Antonio McDyess/Matt Bonner
Tiago Splitter/DeJuan Blair
That team is sick. It's a championship contender for sure.
I'm looking...and I don't like what I see.
Matt Barnes isn't even a reliable reserve, let alone a serviceable starter. And while Gee has had a solid summer league, I think it's a little premature to place him as a back up SF. Where is Hairston? Spurs are apparently high enough on him to say he doesn't need additional work in SL. And why does Neal deserve a spot on this team? He had one impressive summer league game with mixed results in the others. And this is semantics but...Blair is shifting to PF.
I'm not a big fan of re-signing Jefferson, but if the Spurs can get him on a short-term deal (3yrs) it's better than your alternative.
Resigning with RJ is a must at the moment.
James Jones went to Miami, it's sad. If we're going to play with RJ 33-34 minutes, we need a decent SF for the remaining 14-15 minutes. We can give a shot to Hairston and Gee, at least at the first 3 months of regular season. If one of them fits, then great; we can carry on with him. If both of them couldn't fit, we can search some trade opportunities until trade deadline.
Fact: Matt Barnes started almost every game for Orlando last year.
http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/ba...caster09Week11
One game after replacing Mickael Pietrus in the Orlando lineup, Barnes tallied a double-double (17 points, 11 boards) at Minnesota on Jan. 1. The next night, he went for a season-high 23 points and five 3-pointers at Chicago. It's worth noting that, before the outburst against the Bulls, Barnes was a miserable 19.3 percent (16-of-83) from long distance this season. Still, I can see him averaging about 1.5 3s going forward with starter's minutes.
And after seeing this quote from Magic coach Stan Van Gundy, I like Barnes' chances of sticking in the lineup: "He's the only guy on our team that runs, first of all," Van Gundy told the Associated Press. "Nobody else will run, they jog. He's different than our other guys because he cuts, and he will rebound the ball all the time. He does a lot of things that our other perimeter players don't do."
Just did the math, after becoming a starter for the magic Barnes shot 50-124 from range, which translates to a respectable 40%
Unreliable reserve, perhaps. As a starter pretty damn productive.
LMFAO at Van Gundy
LOL ...
Morrison can probaly shoot but that i all you will get. He got locked down by Sasha in most practices/scrimmages ...enough said.
Harlem is right though how much do the spurs need out of SF if Manu and Anderson have SG on lock, Parker and hill are one the best PG combo IMHO unless CP3 is 100% healthy ...and even if so I think Spurs are close.
(I give them the nod over suns because of defense)
Splitter dice and duncan give the Spurs 3 sold igs with high level of skill ...
Spurs will be a threat especially if they RJ at reduced $ ..and Anderson gives you guys some shooting ...
Really the Spus need health above all else nd they are a top 3 or 4 team in the west with a chance to do serious damage in the playoffs.
I second.
How tall is Gary Neal?
How was his defense?
17-30 from downtown, and regardless whether it was SL, it was still NBA 3PT distance.
I'd say he at least earned a camp invite. Better to have him at our camp to see if the SL streak can carry over than him end up starring at someone elses and everyone here complaining about what could have been.
it's a stretch to say he will always shoot close to 40% as a starter. i think his percentages for his career or at least the last couple of season would be more realiable for what his statistics will look like at the end of the day. that's what i would bet my money on. he's basically been a poster boy for shooting inconsistently from three for his career. even going back to the Warriors, one of the reasons he was glued to the bench was because he couldn't hit a shot. he's a flat out inconsistent shooter.
the only thing that will definitively translate would be his D, which is obviously an asset.
i'm of the opinion that the Spurs can't have two inconsistent (at best) three point shooter playing SF in RJ and Barnes at the expense of spacing.
3pt shooting usually (if anything) improves over a player's career. Usually because said player loses athleticism, etc and 3pt shooting becomes a more important part of their aresenal. even ol' Finley was still putting up respectable % at the end. In light of this, I would expect just the opposite, that Barnes 3pt shooting % might have some room to grow yet.
And if the spurs had RJ there really isn't much reason to sign Barnes, even though I think Barnes is the better shooter of the two by a good margin.
i'm not doubting that players can improve their three point shot and become reliable three-point shooters. Barnes just hasn't proved to be reliable enough to be consisdered anywhere near consistent. a great example of this is RJ. with the Bucks, RJ was dead on - 39% average. it ended up returning back to normal. RMJ had a little a a little over a season of shooting the 3 well (if you count his year with Washington plus the half-season with the Spurs), but he could be sliding back closer to his career averages.
basically, imo, the reliability is shown in at least two season of shooting the ball well.
barnes doesnt have to be reliable shooting the 3
as long he hits them when it matters
I think you're a little overrating Barnes.
It seems that you're a Barnes admirer. But why do the Magic didn't resign him and bring Q-Rich? Barnes knows the system, the franchise and the teammates. Why did they decide to replace him? He's a defensive stopper, a good three pointer when he starts etc., but his former team didn't want him back. Moreover, 20 days passed since start of the free-agency and still there is no serious move is done to get Barnes by another team. Why don't they want him?
Why didn't they resign him? IMO, because they are way over the cap and Barnes wanted more $$$ so they balked and signed a much cheaper replacement in Richardson.
If Barnes had known they were going to tighten the pursue strings this year and not offer him a better contract he probably doesn't opt out.
Oh, and to answer your second question, there are several teams inquiring about him, (you'd know this if you paid attention to what was going on), only some (like the heat, LA, & Boston) have nothing but the min salary to offer. The only team with enough money to sign him to a decent price is CLE, who figures to be a bottomdweller in the wake of the LBJ desertion.
Yeah, he would be that 6-4 defensive liability I was referring to.
Could they take him on in a Kerr, role? They could -- but they don't have much need at the 2 and the only way your shooting is there when you need it ... is if it's on the floor.
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