Starcraft 2 Propaganda contest

[Fuzzy Modem]

You bring glorified fan art and photoshops to our geek zone forum! You insult the sacred food establishment of our homeland. You threaten the OP with plagiarism and contest tampering!

I DO!

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"I felt like destroying something beautiful"

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

Lol I'm not really sure if you're serious or not bro, I even said it wasn't my artwork and was a pencil sketch I took into photoshop and painted...it's right in my first post? Did you design those protoss on your own? lmao where did you get the idea for them to look like that? You spent way too much time "busting me" and not enough time looking at the post I made. Read the rules a little more closely , don't you think Blizzard would have disqualified/rejected the entries if they didn't follow the rules? You know the Obama HOPE poster Sheperd Fairey did wasn't an original sketch right? It was a picture he took into photoshop...sorry you wasted your time man

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

And I didn't take the time to read your post because you were obviously posting and making an argument about something you misinterpreted, but the reason I didn't take time to make an elaborate sketch of my own is that I have real jobs to work on, as well as a family, someday you may have sex, and it's possible it may even be with a woman I suppose, you might have a kid (most likely autistic) and you won't have time to "create" protoss characters from "scratch". in noob, and btw your poster is pretty dull.

AND YOU FOR INSULTING TACO CABANA.
Should get your ip from the board mods and totally your up, just to save the world from more of your colorless crap creations

[Cry Havoc]

Were I particularly egotistical

Well it's a good thing you aren't that.

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Shouldn't you, as an experienced artist, know better than to enter a contest that basically amounts to a "vote for me on Facebook" compe ion? If Blizzard wanted a really authentic setup, don't you think they would have employed a much more standardized system of voting?

It sounds like you put a lot of hopes on this compe ion, and then you found out that it wasn't anything too serious, and now you're looking to rage on someone.

[Fuzzy Modem]

It sounds like you put a lot of hopes on this compe ion, and then you found out that it wasn't anything too serious, and now you're looking to rage on someone.

That is an accurate assessment. There are many things wrong with this contest that aren't Taco's fault (such as the lack of a randomized viewing system) and it's fair to say that it was run unprofessionally.

This doesn't excuse Taco's actions however, and he's an easy target, having made himself very high profile. (I think he's cute, calling me "gay" and still insisting it was a pencil sketch.)

My objective was to make an example of him, which I've done.

A Google search for "Starcraft 2 Propaganda contest" "TacoCabanaFajitas" or "TexasWreckShop" will now return 1st page hits for this thread. Any artwork he's submitted anywhere under these aliases will now be tainted upon investigation. No one will ever believe he is capable of creating on his own again.

His reputation has been restored to it's proper level.

Let this be a lesson to plagiarizers everywhere. We know who you are, we know what you've done, and there are consequences.

[MannyIsGod]

Fuzzy Modem - internet crusader and avenger.

Well played sir, well played.

BRB spending a week without sleep working on Facebook contests.

[Cry Havoc]

That is an accurate assessment. There are many things wrong with this contest that aren't Taco's fault (such as the lack of a randomized viewing system) and it's fair to say that it was run unprofessionally.

Let's be clear here.... you realized this contest was counting Facebook votes, and you thought it was a big, serious deal?

This doesn't excuse Taco's actions however, and he's an easy target, having made himself very high profile. (I think he's cute, calling me "gay" and still insisting it was a pencil sketch.)

Wow, yeah, this high profile artist's design website known as Spurstalk.com. To say nothing of the fact that this is The Geek Zone, and I start about 50% of the threads in this forum, because it's pretty much dead.

My objective was to make an example of him, which I've done.

You're attempting to bully someone who's obviously far less experienced working with digital imagery than you are. Strange. I must have missed that part where artists like Raphael and Jacques-Louis David ran down to the local galleries to ridicule their brethren. I mean, I guess it's just me, but it seems to me that if you were truly talented, you wouldn't worry nor care about what this single insignificant (to you) person has done, because you'd be more concerned about furthering yourself as an artist. You know though, that's just me.

A google search for "Starcraft 2 Propaganda contest" "TacoCabanaFajitas" or "TexasWreckShop" will now return 1st page hits for this thread. Any artwork he's submitted anywhere under these aliases will now be tainted upon investigation. No one will ever believe he is capable of creating on his own again.

For those of the super-serious artists in the field who care about Starcraft 2, I commend you for your well thought-out rebuke of TacoCabanaFajitas. I am certain that when he goes onto fame and fortune as an artist, his most torturous lament will be his inability to stamp a cheap Mexican eatery on his work for fear of reprisal at his video game propoganda contest poster.

His reputation has been restored to it's proper level.

Let me ask you, when you drag someone through the metaphorical mud, do you emerge from it any cleaner than they are? You just admitted to being overly sensitive about the subject and just looking to rage on someone... how will that make people who read this thread feel about you, and the comic you've put so many years of your life into?

Let this be a lesson to plagiarizers everywhere. We know who you are, we know what you've done, and there are consequences.

Yes, it sucks for them to have to buy their own copy of Starcraft II.

[Cry Havoc]

And this is all to say nothing of the fact that maybe you should just take the experience you gain from creating art as it's own reward. You know, maybe find something worthwhile you created or a particular section you excelled at creating the poster, or a technique you can use in future situations to enhance your ability? Nope. Because it's so much easier to RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE.

[Fuzzy Modem]

Let's be clear here.... you realized this contest was counting Facebook votes, and you thou>snippity<eir own copy of Starcraft II.

This isn't really about me. It's about these guys:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samwise_Didier
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html...39673&sid=3000
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html...=3000&pageNo=1
http://beta-us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/13618#c-13721406
http://pixelcharlie.deviantart.com/a...qo=3&offset=20

I respect them. I speak for them. I fight for them.

It's all about respect.

I never put my name on anything I'm not proud of, and that includes this thread. Superman doesn't let criminals get away just because they're comparative weak. Neither do I.

Best case scenario Taco learns from this and develops as an artist. Someday maybe he WILL be able to produce great art on his own, and in this case I'll have done him a favor, just like the crook Superman hauls in, that serves his time and goes on to live a productive, crime free life.
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-and yes, Facebook voting was a horrible, horrible idea that I hope will never be repeated again.

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And this is all to say nothing of the fact that maybe you should just take the experience you gain from creating art as it's own reward. You know, maybe find something worthwhile you created or a particular section you excelled at creating the poster, or a technique you can use in future situations to enhance your ability? Nope. Because it's so much easier to RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE.

Actually I take great solace in having learned a new method of texturing based on Sub-D to NURBS conversion.

Again, this doesn't excuse Taco's actions.

[Cry Havoc]

Were I particularly egotistical

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Superman doesn't...Neither do I.

Wow dude, you know how to really show how humble you are. You're a modern day superhero, the way you came into this dead thread on this dead forum and ROFLpwned his ass. I hope his real name isn't TacoCabanaFajita or he might not be able to go outside without a bunch of mimes making threatening gestures at him for insulting artists around the world.

As far as respect goes, what, exactly, have you done that's respectful in this thread, besides call everyone out for disagreeing with you in the most bombastic way possible?

Don't pretend. This isn't about those guys. This is about salvaging your bruised ego. You already admitted as much, so stop attempting to play the part of the good altruistic soul after you already admitted that the catalyst for your behavior was you were just looking to stomp someone's face in the ground 'cause your feelings as an artist got a little boo-boo.

[Cry Havoc]

Also, hasn't he already stated that he wasn't willfully using copyrighted material, but thought that the whole point of the compe ion was to do that? You're not exactly dealing with a renegade artist ripping off other people's art with pathological glee, here. If you can find some other offenses of his, by all means list them here.

Considering that Blizzard actually promoted such work, I'd say he even makes a fair point that they didn't mind. If the company owning said art is willing to look the other way (and even reward said reworks of existing art), what right do you have to be so indignant? Either way, he stated his position, and it seemed to be that at WORST he was guilty of not reading the rules as clearly as he could have, and you continued to flame him and call him out for his "blatant plagarization". Which is damned petty. I'm betting Superman didn't catch many crooks who were accidentally robbing a bank.

EDIT: Upon viewing the thread where you created your masterpiece, I happened upon this:

"I made this in about 15 minutes as a joke. Me and the guys at work were pontificating on the ideal poster design to appeal to the Facebook voters:"




I had my friend submit the second one as I didn't want to potentially endanger my real entry by breaking the contest rules. I wonder if he'll win anything.

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So, to be clear, plagarizing art is acceptable when it's a joke. Your hypocrisy is noted.

[Fuzzy Modem]

So, to be clear, plagarizing art is acceptable when it's a joke. Your hypocrisy is noted.

LOL! I'm completely busted. I have absolutely no rebuttal for that. Good show!

There is a semantic argument to made for the difference between game screen-shots and concept art, but I won't bother. Your point is sound, and I'd like to take this moment to credit both Blizzard, and Zynga (the creator of Farmville.)

Please note that I also went back and credited them in my WiP thread, which I do appreciate you reading

[Fuzzy Modem]

I'd like to propose that Taco and I settle this with a game of StarCraft 2 (or StarCraft 1 if he prefers.)

Looser creates a custom piece of artwork for the winner, the subject to be of the winner's choosing.

The completed artwork can be in any medium and is to be posted in this thread, along with the StarCraft replay. It can utilize the artwork of others, as long as the original artist is properly credited.

Do you accept Taco?

If so, do you have any conditions (such as the nature of the loser's artwork must be "safe for work")?

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

I'd like to propose that Taco and I settle this with a game of StarCraft 2 (or StarCraft 1 if he prefers.)
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Settle what you in freak? You're arguing with other people on here over something that I obviously could care less about. The first time someone ask if I sketched it I said all I did was take it into photoshop, clean it up, and paint it and you're trying to pretend I said otherwise. Cry Havoc hit it on the head when he pointed out your bruised ego, your "artwork" looks like it was for the first SC game, you have a lot to learn about typography and things like that tbh. And I game with people that aren't butthurt little es, you're one of those guys that shuts his pc off mid-game when things aren't going his way I can tell.

My career in design is ruined now thanks to you, I hope you're proud!

[Fuzzy Modem]

Settle what you in freak? You're arguing with other people on here over something that I obviously could care less about. The first time someone ask if I sketched it I said all I did was take it into photoshop, clean it up, and paint it and you're trying to pretend I said otherwise. Cry Havoc hit it on the head when he pointed out your bruised ego, your "artwork" looks like it was for the first SC game, you have a lot to learn about typography and things like that tbh. And I game with people that aren't butthurt little es, you're one of those guys that shuts his pc off mid-game when things aren't going his way I can tell.

My career in design is ruined now thanks to you, I hope you're proud!

Soooo... you're afraid then?

Drop counts as a loss since you're worried about that.

C'mon. A game of StarCraft takes like, half an hour, tops. Teach my punk-ass a lesson, I dare you :P

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

This isn't really about me. It's about these guys:

I respect them. I speak for them. I fight for them.

It's all about respect.

Are you taking a speech class right now in your high school and testing lines on us? Who the are you talking to bro?

[Fuzzy Modem]

The first time someone ask if I sketched it I said all I did was take it into photoshop, clean it up, and paint it and you're trying to pretend I said otherwise.

You did say otherwise, when you agreed to this:

Original Work of Authorship.

You hereby warrant and represent that (a) you own all rights to all Entry Materials submitted by you; and (b) all such Entry Materials are original works of authorship on your part and have not been copied, in whole or in part, from any other work and do not violate, misappropriate or infringe any copyright, trademark or other proprietary right of any other person or en y.

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/communi...ion/rules.html


Will you accept my challenge, yes or no?

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

Will you accept my challenge, yes or no?

1. This sounds like something you cooked up just to not look like a complete and save face instead of looking like a crazy guy stalking people on the internet on a noble quest to rid the world of...well I'm not really sure.

2. I don't like to play with people that take themselves or games too seriously, I don't know what happened to you in your life but something has you putting your attention in the wrong direction.

3. I don't have SC installed on my pc and I'm not playing the beta. Get a ing life and either gtfo the forum or start acting like a normal human being.

[Fuzzy Modem]

1. This sounds like something you cooked up just to not look like a complete and save face instead of looking like a crazy guy stalking people on the internet on a noble quest to rid the world of...well I'm not really sure.

Plagiarism. I'm ridding the world of plagiarism. Do a word search in this thread. I bet you'll find it.

2. I don't like to play with people that take themselves or games too seriously, I don't know what happened to you in your life but something has you putting your attention in the wrong direction.

YOU have, by taking part in the destruction of something I admittedly cared about deeply, and then advertising it, thereby making yourself a target.

3. I don't have SC installed on my pc and I'm not playing the beta. Get a ing life and either gtfo the forum or start acting like a normal human being.

I'm happy to wait until you have a copy of either SC2 or SC1 installed. I won't have SC1 again myself until the end of the month.

[Cry Havoc]

I'd like to propose that Taco and I settle this with a game of StarCraft 2 (or StarCraft 1 if he prefers.)

Looser creates a custom piece of artwork for the winner, the subject to be of the winner's choosing.

The completed artwork can be in any medium and is to be posted in this thread, along with the StarCraft replay. It can utilize the artwork of others, as long as the original artist is properly credited.

Do you accept Taco?

If so, do you have any conditions (such as the nature of the loser's artwork must be "safe for work")?

Let's review:

T: Hey! Check out this poster I made! I copied it from X for this contest!

F: You suck. You're a . You broke the rulezz!111one!!!

T: Uh, those aren't the rules as I understood them.

F: Eat a . You suck. Your artwork is garbage.

O: Hey, maybe he didn't quite get what the contest is going for.

F: Shut the up. He broke the rules. He's a bag. He's an insult to artists everywhere. You're a for agreeing with him.

C: Uh... you mean he did exactly what you did in a separate entry?

F: Awww, you're right! Let's play a game!

T: Nah.

F: Oh come on. what's the matter? Aren't you a man?

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That is a somewhat accurate appraisal of how things went down. Fuzzy Modem, for your sake, I hope you're a nicer person in the real world than you are online, because frankly, you're an asshole in the here and now.

[Cry Havoc]

Plagiarism. I'm ridding the world of plagiarism. Do a word search in this thread. I bet you'll find it.

Found it. Right next to this:

[Fuzzy Modem]

Fuzzy Modem, for your sake, I hope you're a nicer person in the real world than you are online, because frankly, you're an asshole in the here and now.

I'm trying to be an asshole, and admittedly I'm not great at it, as it's somewhat new to me. Can anyone offer me some pointers?

[The Reckoning]

hahaha i love nerd rage. keep at it, fellas!

[Fuzzy Modem]

@Cry Havoc I don't think a piece of satire, that in context is obviously intended to MOCK talentless hacks like Taco (as well as Facebook users and the contest voting system), is exactly the smoking gun you're making it out to be.

However I DO think that it undercuts my credibility irrecoverably, which I commend you for, and as I'm getting dangerously close to adding this thread to my list of quasi-obsessions, I think it's time for me to slink off and lick my wounds.

I sincerely appreciate the opportunity to vent. This was the only place on the internet I could find that would actually put effort into defending plagiarism (and I looked for a while.)

@ Taco: Message me if you ever want to play a game of StarCraft, friendly or otherwise, and next time, read the ing rules.

...and basketball is dumb.

*poof!

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

@ Taco: Message me if you ever want to play a game of StarCraft, friendly or otherwise, and next time, read the ing rules.

...and basketball is dumb.

*poof!