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Sad thing is a lot of you guys didn't want him for 2mil. I bet 10mil is the real reason the spurs did not knock down his door.
Exactly. Knew Barnes wouldn't settle for LLE type money. Dude is getting 5 mil/year. Was never an option
Sad thing is a lot of you guys didn't want him for 2mil. I bet 10mil is the real reason the spurs did not knock down his door.
TJ still thinks so..
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Matt Barnes is near agreement on a two-year, $9 million deal with Toronto, with a player option for year two, a league source tells Y!
I'm sure the Spurs were knocking on his door. People seem to think that because the player doesn't sign here that the spurs were never interested. I'm sure the Spurs are looking at every possible option and have talked to every available player at that position. Barnes was never going to take LLE type money. He was never an option. People saying "Hurry up and sign Butler" just assume that we have not called him are being unreal also. Butler is holding out for a reason... trying to get a team to throw money at him like this. If the players don't want to come here than they won't come here, but the spurs are definitely looking at all these players.
I think best case scenario for Spurs now is Jefferson and Butler.
Makes sense for Barnes... he's obviously leaving some money on the table to play for a contender like Toronto, but he'll still get decent money anyways and the PT...
Most realistic..
Jefferson and Nachbar or Simmons
Butler should get more than the 2.365 million the Spurs have available.
Especially considering Barnes new deal and Bell's deal.
True story.
Which contenders (and semi-contenders) still have money to spend?
Lakers got Blake.
Houston got Miller.
Denver got Harrington.
Phoenix got Warrick.
Celtics got J. O'Neal?
Magic and Dallas still have all their exceptions to play with, iirc. Who am I forgetting?
Point being, he might be willing to take less money to play for a ring, but lord knows we all need a little more off-season speculation.
Last edited by Dex; 07-19-2010 at 08:18 PM.
There has been too much talk of the importance of Richard Jefferson and the doom and gloom of the small forward position. There are still solid guys available that could bring the same level of play to the Spurs that Richard Jefferson delivered to the spurs. Sometimes guys just need the right situation and a chance. The Spurs Bruce Bowen is a prime example of a journeyman player finding his groove with the right situation. See the article below that mentions 3 names below. Also Jawad Williams probably could be signed for the LLE. Also, did we all forget about Marcus Williams already? It's time to do in another direction. Richard Jefferson is not the right fit. Point Blank!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...-market#page/7
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Rodney-Carney-76/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Antoine-Wright-125/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jawad-Williams-20/
Ya know, Jawad Williams did take the Centerpiece for a ride and we all know how the Spurs like the players that play well against them -- and they do have a tie with him back to his rookie TC.
Doubtful, but it's something.
Holy , Barnes got 4.5mil for 2 years!? WTF? He's barely worth the LLE.
You are right about Butler although I will continue to hope that he's the kind of guy who will come here for the quality of the organisation and team mates, and an outside chance to win something. That is not out of the realm of possibility given that he's coming from the Clippers!
However, Simmons is looking increasingly likely. Utterly unexciting player, but playing him 24mins a game, and giving the rest to Hairston/Gee is okay I guess.
Simmons playing over 20 MPG would be disgusting..
I'm fine with either Jefferson or Butler, not both..I'm not a fan of Jefferson, I don't think he's going to be any better and I hope he'll be a 6th man, but he's a better option than any of the available veterans..
1. Jefferson
2. Butler
None of the other players interest me at all..
I would still be really surprised if any other team shows an interest in Jefferson, so I'm still expecting him to be in San Antonio next season..go with him and Hairston as the backup, if it doesn't work it, there's plenty of time for trades, if needed..
I'll take Nachbar or Morrison to play alongside Jefferson as the backup.
Why?..
Another person who'd rather ignore our youth than develop it. What is with that?
I think we need a vet SF to start (preferably Butler IMHO, but Simmons looking likely), but why not go with Hairston/Gee as the backup? Hairston/Gee can't shoot the 3 reliably yet (I'd suggest that's what they'll be doing all off-season though), but with Hill/Anderson/Bonner we don't need 2nd team 3pt shooters - we need athletes... but you'd rather have Adam Morrison?
Signing Morrison would be a sign the FO needs new blood.
Morrison can shoot the ball and we need that desperately. If he would take the BAE than I would take him on the roster.
Morrison hasn't shown that he can shoot at the NBA level, and that's pretty much all he had going for him..historically bad defender, not a good rebounder, he really doesn't do anything..
Spurs want shooting. Nachbar can shoot, and do it from the 3, so he makes sense if they're going to add someone. But as I've been saying, and Harlem and others have posted to as well, what's so terrible about going with the youth behind a re-signed Jefferson?
Look at it this way, the Spurs will have a year under their belt with the group they had last year essentially and the only change to their 3-point shooting would be the exchange of Anderson and Mason -- plus Temple could turn out to be an upgrade as well to the group that ended the years sans Finley.
So I don't see any reason why the team can't excel and thrive earlier on in the season this year with a much more cohesive group and some better personnel. I think they'll eventually have to make a pretty significant move if their goal is to win a le -- which it no doubt is -- but they should be able to put themselves in fine position to start the season and asses the trade market once they've found out what they've got -- I don't want to feel like we never gave the youth a chance to contribute again. No bullets left in the gun . . .
the problem with all this talk is that there is no guarantee the Spurs want / will resign Jefferson. The Spurs can either wait till the market dries up and low ball him some how get something in return from a trade to a desperate team, either way every second a decision from RJ isn't made, another SF FA is taken
Like some said, I doubt Pop had any interest in Barnes, which I don't understand given the available options left. He would have given up $$$ to come to a contender like the spurs, and even said so. Missed opportunity by the spurs IMO.
I guess the plan all along has been to resign Jefferson and hope he magically starts to play better alongside Parker (ya right lol).
And Barnes took the money ultimately.. 2yr/9m is pretty good...so much for the popular theory around here that there is somehow something "wrong" with him that nobody is willing to pay the man.
I agree that we will probably get RJ back, and hopefully he's not a trainwreck after throwing away sixteen million. I'd like to see all of temple, gee, and Hairston on the team and hopefully getting a chance to show something. No more Bogans. Or any other wash-ups.
Might as well que up the "Welcome back, RJ" threads, followed by the "Will RJ start or come off the bench" threads..
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