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    Pop's been personally working with RJ this summer on his game, ya know.

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    For Matt Barnes-to-Toronto, a league source says, "The sign and trade (scenario) is dead." Blamed on a "miscalculation" somewhere in talks.

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    The only time the small forward has been a spectacular player in the last twenty years was the Sean Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_ era. The spurs need someone focused on defense and a basic jump shop. Nothing spectacular. Spurs need to turn their sights on a hungry small forward with a chip on his shoulder, aka find a overlooked Stephen Jackson. It might sound complicated but the Dleague has guys that fit the SG/SF mold plus some have been in the system. More important though is to find a big/athletic who can block a shot. Duncan is even less athletic now and don't bet Splitter will be ready day 1.

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    Tell the truth Truth, you did that on purpose didn't you?

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    Updated ESPN.com link to Matt Barnes latest and issues that have endangered his Toronto deal: http://es.pn/ac12Jw

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    That's the first time in a long time I've seen that macro work like it should. It usually just pops up randomly in long article posts.

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    Matt Barnes could be the last free agent available in the world and Pop wouldn't sign him. Why are y'all following him for?

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    Matt Barnes could be the last free agent available in the world and Pop wouldn't sign him. Why are y'all following him for?
    Uh, right, that's why rumor is Pop & the FO was trying to get him years ago on several different occasions.

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    Whats up with you guys and Nachbar? Where is the guy? Who says he wants to be in the NBA now anyways?

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    We should try Rodney Carney. The guy is atletic, young, pretty good defender, good rebounder. He had a PER of 12.7 last season. Considering the guy played for the minimum, it is amazing. I mean, RJ salary was 15 times bigger and he managed to have a PER of 13.1.
    The guy is totally underrated.

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    The only time the small forward has been a spectacular player in the last twenty years was the Sean Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_ era. The spurs need someone focused on defense and a basic jump shop. Nothing spectacular. Spurs need to turn their sights on a hungry small forward with a chip on his shoulder, aka find a overlooked Stephen Jackson. It might sound complicated but the Dleague has guys that fit the SG/SF mold plus some have been in the system. More important though is to find a big/athletic who can block a shot. Duncan is even less athletic now and don't bet Splitter will be ready day 1.
    1. It is spelled 'Elliott'.

    2. Bruce Bowen, anyone?

    3. Jax isn't overlooked at all, not around here, anyway. A significant number of posters have advocated to bring back Jax at various times over the last 5 years. Unfortunately, it never happened.

    4. The big rotation is almost set: Duncan/Splitter/Dice/Grizzly/Bonner. Like it or not, the 6th big is unlikely to play very much and is likely to be another old vet like Ratliff for the min.

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    We should try Rodney Carney. The guy is atletic, young, pretty good defender, good rebounder. He had a PER of 12.7 last season. Considering the guy played for the minimum, it is amazing. I mean, RJ salary was 15 times bigger and he managed to have a PER of 13.1.
    The guy is totally underrated.
    12.7 is still a crappy PER. The average PER is 15.

    If only Carney could shoot he might fit, but he shoots 33% from 3 for his career so I doubt he's even on the radar. Also, he Gee and Hairston are pretty similar.

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    1. It is spelled 'Elliott'.

    2. Bruce Bowen, anyone?

    3. Jax isn't overlooked at all, not around here, anyway. A significant number of posters have advocated to bring back Jax at various times over the last 5 years. Unfortunately, it never happened.

    4. The big rotation is almost set: Duncan/Splitter/Dice/Grizzly/Bonner. Like it or not, the 6th big is unlikely to play very much and is likely to be another old vet like Ratliff for the min.
    Problem with point 4, I would like to mention that if the next season doesn't pan out well, the scapegoat may very well be Splitter. Like Richard Jefferson's situation, high expectations may lead to huge disappointments. I wouldn't be surpised to see Splitter not perform up to par in the 1st game of the season and everyone starts melting down.

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    F**k it, let's just roll with who we have on the roster now. Eff RJ, eff anybody else, let's drop that ish low and drive down Military Drive on Sunday night with Malik and Zo.

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    Well, I am sure there is a reason the Spurs still left 2.4 million of the MLE not used yet. I don't know if they are going to use it. The could also have done this to avoid the luxury tax. Hopefully, it is used to sign a SF.

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    12.7 is still a crappy PER. The average PER is 15.

    If only Carney could shoot he might fit, but he shoots 33% from 3 for his career so I doubt he's even on the radar. Also, he Gee and Hairston are pretty similar.
    We don't have money to get a guy with 15+ PER. Do you know how many SFs in the league got 15+ PER last season ? Only 13. Most of them superstars.

    check yourself

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    Considering the money and the options that we have, i don't think he is a bad option at all. The guy has a TS of 51.5% (decent shooter), good defender and good rebounder. Hairston and Gee can't shoot. IMO, we need a good perimeter defender b4 a good 3-point shooter. We have Bonner, Manu and James Anderson.

    I don't think we could expect more from a guy that plays for the minimum.

    Anyway !! i really don't see any better options for the money that we have, but i respect your opinion

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    We don't have money to get a guy with 15+ PER. Do you know how many SFs in the league got 15+ PER last season ? Only 13. Most of them superstars.

    check yourself

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    Considering the money and the options that we have, i don't think he is a bad option at all. The guy has a TS of 51.5% (decent shooter), good defender and good rebounder. Hairston and Gee can't shoot. IMO, we need a good perimeter defender b4 a good 3-point shooter. We have Bonner, Manu and James Anderson.

    I don't think we could expect more from a guy that plays for the minimum.

    Anyway !! i really don't see any better options for the money that we have, but i respect your opinion
    TS% of 51.5% is below average. It is not good.

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    Intersting that you say:

    Hairston and Gee can't shoot.
    Then follow it up with:

    IMO, we need a good perimeter defender b4 a good 3-point shooter. We have Bonner, Manu and James Anderson.
    Hairston is a good perimeter defender. Probably the best one the Spurs have on the roster.

    And oh, btw, Hairston's TS last year was 55.5%.

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    Yeah guys, sold on the idea !! Malik had a worse PER but had a better TS.

    I think we should stick with Malik as our backup option, even though i think Carney is not bad for the money he gets.

    Anyway, it's just hard to find a good SF for the money that we have. In the end, i think we're gonna resign RJ and we can just expect him to step up next season

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    We don't have money to get a guy with 15+ PER. Do you know how many SFs in the league got 15+ PER last season ? Only 13. Most of them superstars.

    check yourself

    insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics

    Considering the money and the options that we have, i don't think he is a bad option at all. The guy has a TS of 51.5% (decent shooter), good defender and good rebounder. Hairston and Gee can't shoot. IMO, we need a good perimeter defender b4 a good 3-point shooter. We have Bonner, Manu and James Anderson.

    I don't think we could expect more from a guy that plays for the minimum.

    Anyway !! i really don't see any better options for the money that we have, but i respect your opinion
    Indeed.

    I'd rather play Hairston/Gee - I think at this point they have a higher upside than Carney does, although maybe he's a late-bloomer. Generally you know what a player's ceiling is by year 3-4, and Carney's ceiling looks like 8-9th man to me.

    Not a bad call to bring him up though.

    Would he fit the locker room is the other question?

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    We don't have money to get a guy with 15+ PER. Do you know how many SFs in the league got 15+ PER last season ? Only 13. Most of them superstars.

    check yourself

    insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics

    Considering the money and the options that we have, i don't think he is a bad option at all. The guy has a TS of 51.5% (decent shooter), good defender and good rebounder. Hairston and Gee can't shoot. IMO, we need a good perimeter defender b4 a good 3-point shooter. We have Bonner, Manu and James Anderson.

    I don't think we could expect more from a guy that plays for the minimum.

    Anyway !! i really don't see any better options for the money that we have, but i respect your opinion
    Indeed.

    I'd rather play Hairston/Gee - I think at this point they have a higher upside than Carney does, although maybe he's a late-bloomer. Generally you know what a player's ceiling is by year 3-4, and Carney's ceiling looks like 8-9th man to me.

    Not a bad call to bring him up though.

    Would he fit the locker room is the other question?

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    We don't have money to get a guy with 15+ PER. Do you know how many SFs in the league got 15+ PER last season ? Only 13. Most of them superstars.

    check yourself

    insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics

    Considering the money and the options that we have, i don't think he is a bad option at all. The guy has a TS of 51.5% (decent shooter), good defender and good rebounder. Hairston and Gee can't shoot. IMO, we need a good perimeter defender b4 a good 3-point shooter. We have Bonner, Manu and James Anderson.

    I don't think we could expect more from a guy that plays for the minimum.

    Anyway !! i really don't see any better options for the money that we have, but i respect your opinion
    Indeed.

    I'd rather play Hairston/Gee - I think at this point they have a higher upside than Carney does, although maybe he's a late-bloomer. Generally you know what a player's ceiling is by year 3-4, and Carney's ceiling looks like 8-9th man to me.

    Not a bad call to bring him up though.

    Would he fit the locker room is the other question?

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    Sweet ... the rare triple post.

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    Sweet ... the rare triple post.

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