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At this point, anything more than 3yrs/20M would just be stupid.
Personally, I hope we don't sign him. RJ, a proven poor fit for the team who just turned 30, would be a disasterous signing for 7-10mil over 4 years, which is probably what he's seeking. That is exactly the kind of overpaying of mediocre players that the Spurs DON'T engage in.
I say resist the urge, magically nab Rasual for 2.3mil/3 years, and get ready to see some real time for Gee and Hairston. Time to get young and athletic.
At this point, anything more than 3yrs/20M would just be stupid.
That I could live with, although I honestly don't think RJ is the way forward for our team. Also, having just left 15mil for ONE season on the table, don't you think RJ would be resentful if signed to that contract? He doesn't really seem to be tight within the team anyway, and I think a contract that reasonable might up his at ude!
Have you heard of this Bonner kid?
That I could live with, although I honestly don't think RJ is the way forward for our team. Also, having just left 15mil for ONE season on the table, don't you think RJ would be resentful if signed to that contract? He doesn't really seem to be tight within the team anyway, and I think a contract that reasonable might up his at ude!
Pretty much. I'm ready to cut him loose and take our chances with the young guys and best FA 2.4M can buy.
If his contract is around 12/4 with incentives (ie. 3mil a year), which there is some indication that it is, it's not ideal but it's not a cap-killer either. Pop likes to have a stretch 4, and it's hard to find even a half-decent one of those for 3mil per. I personally would have gone with Steve Novak for the minimum, but 3mil per for Bonner is not a disaster... 8mil per for RJ would be!
jefferson is not going to be a happy camper next season. after losing $15 million and probably going to have to settle for much less, he's going to be pretty disgruntled. i don't want him back for this reason. i still think a S&T is the best for both parties. hopefully, the spurs pull one out of their ass.
Glad to hear I'm not insane then.
Pretty much. I'm ready to cut him loose and take our chances with the young guys and best FA 2.4M can buy.
I'd say the forum is 80/20 against seriously blooding either Hairston or Gee, but I think they are the kinds of players that will succeed in the new, ultra-athletic NBA.
Other teams uncover talented youth when they actually give their kids playing time (Morrow, Matthews, etc), who is to say our kids can't blossom as well? look at Hill and Blair for example.
Time we play the kids!
RJ wants $10 mil per, hopefully the Spurs don't get excited and re-sign him
Damn, here I was hoping someone added a space in "resign" by accident.
Matt Bonner. Every time I hear that name I think "Matt Damon" from Team America, except I think Damon could probably dribble the ball better than Bonner.
It is insane to have almost the same roster and expect a different result this year. Insane indeed.
Normally I would be inclined to agree w/ you, however; the pleathorea of injuries last season, the young players who played a significant role last season, and the general rule that players take about a season to really get the Spurs system were all factors in that roster's performance. Tiago Splitter could also provide this team w/ a much needed inside presence to compliment Tim. Antonio McDyess could very well have an improved season on his farewell tour.It is insane to have almost the same roster and expect a different result this year. Insane indeed.
Presently I'm hoping that RJ comes back because talented swing players always tend to have good second years under Popovich.
Normally I would be inclined to agree w/ you, however; the pleathorea of injuries last season, the young players who played a significant role last season, and the general rule that players take about a season to really get the Spurs system were all factors in that roster's performance. Tiago Splitter could also provide this team w/ a much needed inside presence to compliment Tim. Antonio McDyess could very well have an improved season on his farewell tour.It is insane to have almost the same roster and expect a different result this year. Insane indeed.
Presently I'm hoping that RJ comes back because talented swing players always tend to have good second years under Popovich.
the combination of additions of splitter, anderson, and a healthy parker + the further development hill and blair and temple + jefferson and mcdyess improving (if only a little) in their second years in the system should be greater than the collective declines of duncan and ginobili for this year.
so there is a reasonable expectation that the team be better than it was last year. it may require some things to right and still probably not enough to surpass the lakers, but a better team nonetheless.
now, this offseason hasn't gone spectacular, but i'd argue that there weren't moves to be made that would have propelled the spurs back up to the top (at least no moves that didn't involve a chris wallace type favor). i never viewed splitter as more than a 50/50 shot, so his signing alone makes this a (mild) success in my eyes.
Obviously I hope he turns it around this year... If we are going to get anywhere this season...we need him to be who we thought he was when he first came.
Agree. Well said.
Even if everything goes right health-wise and their pieces come through, there's a pretty good chance they don't have enough to win a championship without a trade. But given all they really could've done this offseason and what tools they had at their disposal, there's not much more you could have really hoped for realistically.
If TP is healthy all season last year, we may have been the number two or three seed. We dropped two on the RRT that should have been gimmees (PHIL and DET I think), lost to LA without Kobe and lost to Cleveland without Le and gave the Mavs the final game of the season.
We only finished five games back, so a few minor adjustments, and good health and we should be pretty damn good this year. This squad just needs stability and chemistry. As long as the TP extension can be handled quietly, RJ doesn't half-ass it due to a lesser contract and Bonner doesn't start, we could finish in the top 4 this season in the West.
Not disappointed at all with bringing RJ back, especially for a cheaper price, especially given what $ the Spurs have to spend. There is no move as dumb as signing Matt ing Bonner to a four year deal. Signing him at all could be debated, but four years?? With a pay RAISE?? Bonner has sucked every year, while Jefferson has struggled for only one year. RJ is going to be better than he was last year. Matt Bonner won't.
RJ For A Cheaper Price.... and he will better Acclimated in the Spurs System should be A huge win for the Spurs....
I'm not as bothered by the Bonner re-signing as most. He's a do ented playoff choker, but he does have proven regular season value (and we're at the point now where just simply showing up and making the playoffs as a high seed is no longer assured).
There was no even adequate stretch 4 that we could sign who wouldn't have eaten into our very limited exemption space.
Bonner may be overpaid (but - again - he was the only player out there who could be signed without eating up an exemption) for his role - but he does fill a role...
...It's just a question of whether or not Pop uses him in that LIMITED role correctly. I know some people here just assume that Pop loves him and will give him extended minutes, but with Blair/Splitter/Dyess/Duncan all commanding PT - I don't think we'll see as much of Bonner as we have the last 2 years. Many on this board also assumed that Pop would never give Hill PT at the expense of Finley. He waited 1 year too long, but he did do it.
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Heard this (a la @Buster_ESPN): Spurs and Richard Jefferson will be officially reunited soon
This is the week, by all accounts, that San Antonio and Richard Jefferson will complete the restructured deal that we’ve all assumed had to be forthcoming since Jefferson stunningly opted out of a $15 million salary for next season on the eve of free agency. The specifics in terms of years and dollars remain unknown, but I’ve been assured that Jefferson will officially be back with the Spurs quite soon.
Gross.
As expected. Best of the realistic options left and here's hoping that another year in the system will help the Spurs.
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