I'm fairly certain that was debunked. See RJ's comments from that camp thing where he was out of shape. If that were true, he'd already have been locked up. Everything about RJ's opting out screams of a last-minute decision, and probably not a well thought out one.
The proper question is: If the Spurs are so sure RJ is their guy, why isn't he on the team?
The Spurs can't put a gun to a free agent's head and make him sign with the team. They certainly don't have overwhelming money to throw at free agents, so the fact that they've failed to sign someone is NOT evidence that they haven't been trying to sign someone.
Every day that RJ's phone doesn't ring, his price goes down. The Spurs would have been stupid to "sever ties" with him. It's pretty clear that they've been actively trying to replace him, they just haven't had much success and he's going to be their fall-back position until he's gone. If nothing else it's probably wise to keep relations warm so they can potentially work a sign and trade if he decides to go somewhere else.
See "fall-back" position above. I certainly don't think RC would be doing the process any favors if he said that the Spurs were waiting for RJ's value to drop. No matter what the truth is, do you think he'd have answered that question any differently?
If the Spurs really really want to sign RJ and he's not on the team, it means he's looking elsewhere so it would be smart for the Spurs to do the same. If RJ really really wants to be a Spur and he's not on the team, it means the Spurs are looking for other options or don't value him as highly as you think.
Bottom line: The Spurs know exactly how much salary is available. RJ knows exactly how much salary is available. The fact that he's not signed means that RJ is looking for more money somewhere or that the Spurs don't think he's a priority.
Dude, it isn't that complicated... the Spurs told RJ to go out into the market and return with an offer from another team and the Spurs will match it.
I believe there's a lot of trust built up between the Spurs and RJ that there's a clear cut agreement that he's coming back and the price is determined by the market.
Unfortunately for RJ is that market isn't telling him how much he's worth!
Oh, really? That's great. Could you link the news article that says that please?
No I don't have a news link. It is just that my explanation is so much simpler than yours.
"Go get me another offer and I'll match it". Can it be simpler than this?
fact 1: The spurs are not sure what will happen with the Jefferson situation so they have to be prepared if he comes back. It is not set in stone that he is coming back. Many factors will consider the final decision like what offer RJ gets and if the spurs want to match it and who else the spurs could get at SF will be the determining factors on if RJ comes back. Also a future sign and trade could be in the works.
Fact 2: The spurs haven't done anything yet regarding a SF because they haven't been able to get a player they like. But I doubt if they haven't been making calls. Jefferson is the fall back option if there is nothing left that they like. As the time goes on and less options are available the more likely the spurs fall back to Jefferson.
Fact 3: That could just be PR. I dont read much into that statement. Another direction can be decided on if they see a better option.
Good post. I agree. Contrary to recent rumors I still do not see jefferson on the team. Good chance for a sign and trade to work out where the spurs add a starting quality SF.
What teams can be considered good options for RJ to land on and the spurs getting a SF back?
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Heard this (a la @Buster_ESPN): Spurs and Richard Jefferson will be officially reunited soon
These are not facts, they are your opinions.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/J..._98860444.html Well, well, happy now?
"Eley has stressed that Jefferson’s decision did not mean he wanted to change teams, saying Jefferson preferred to remain in San Antonio if the club would give him a deal that provided the long-term security he sought."
I don't see how that backs up what you claimed at all.
Three things:
1. That article doesn't say that the Spurs told RJ to go out and get an offer that they would match. As of this moment, there are no reports that RJ has gotten another offer and the Spurs aren't matching anything.
2. This article was posted after I asked you to post the link.
3. You're an idiot.
well duh! does time travel exist?
i can't imagine me answering your question before you ask.
So you admit that you just made it up and stated it as though it were a fact even before that article that fails to confirm it was posted.
Yeah, I guess I'll continue to say it:
You're an idiot.
Well there you go again ignoring the fact that I was dead on right about the RJ situation.
He was signed, my instincts were correct about it and yours was not.
Admit it, you're dumber than.the guy you keep calling an idiot.
I got it now, you just have a bad habit of sounding complicated to appear smart. Also you call people idiots just to make it appear that you are not. Problem with that tactic is that it makes you look like the bigger idiot. The joke is on you bub!!! Hahaha!
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Hold on. Your "instincts were correct"? Meaning that it was a pure speculation on your part, albeit one ruled by your instinct?
Maybe we should have a poll on the most divisive Spurs player of the last 10 years.
RJ would be up there, I think.
So you were guessing and stated it as though it were a confirmed fact.
Idiot.
ceperez is rally pushing hard for the KBP trophy. just did not yet pick a fake nationality.
Should he go for Austrian nationality?
Dude, every read "Blink" by Malcolm Gladwell?
Or maybe I give you too much credit, I'm not sure you even read books.
With the RJ signing, the list, true to form, continues to remain correct.
Which still doesn't allow much room for a FA. Signing a SF FA will mean shared playing time for possibly both Gee, Hairston or even Anderson. For what its worth, I don't think that would help the team's chemistry.
Should he go for Austrian nationality?I wonder what players he could overhype then. this is a very very dry country when it comes to basketball.
You are awesome. It's not just anybody that can take a list of the guys the Spurs have under contract and use that as a prediction of who will be on the roster this year.
No, but 50% of Spurstalk members were either in doubt of RJ signing or wanted him out.
2 for 2, Neal gets signed. Roster complete at 14 players. Neal wasn't on contract when I created this list.
What say you now?
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