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    I'll be at the game in Houston. It ought to be a good one. Two middle of the pack teams...fighting it out.
    Trivia question: Guess the only team in the NFL to never even make the playoffs?

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    Trivia question: Guess the only team in the NFL to never even make the playoffs?

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    I'm going to Training Camp next week at the Alamodome and will be watching the Safeties closely. As a boys fan that is the position I am most worried about. Last year I watched the receivers closely and felt better about the boys after watching Austin Miles and Kevin Olgetree. Hopefully some of these young safeties get the job done because I'm thinking SUPER this year.

    You were right dude Austin Miles is a beast.

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    >my face when Cowboyfans are so fairweather they don't know their own player's name



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    I'm kind of excited about the possibilities with Aki though..wasn't he the DII leader in INTs? We could really use someone who has the eye to pick off a few.
    I don't think a lack of potential with getting interceptions will keep him off the field this year, it'll be because he's far too green to be in the right spots consistently and not bust coverage. If he wants to make an impact this year he needs to prove to be a bad ass kick returner and make special teams tackles.

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    I don't think a lack of potential with getting interceptions will keep him off the field this year, it'll be because he's far too green to be in the right spots consistently and not bust coverage. If he wants to make an impact this year he needs to prove to be a bad ass kick returner and make special teams tackles.
    Oh yeah..I agree completely with the fact that he'll be too green. Just like the potential for the future.

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    Trivia question: Guess the only team in the NFL to never even make the playoffs?
    Could be worse. Could have been a Saints or Niners fan when they first came into the NFL.

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    Could be worse. Could have been a Saints or Niners fan when they first came into the NFL.
    9ers made the playoffs their second year in the league.

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    Actually, the Niners made the playoffs just once in their first 20 years in the NFL, and that was in year #8.

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    I hear ya. My concerns with Aki is that he's not only a rookie, but he's a rookie from a small DII school who is coming off a shoulder injury and will be switching positions in the NFL. IMO not realistic for him to be the starting free safety this year on a team with legit preseason SB chances.
    Him being from a DII school doesn't really bother me because I know that there are plenty of great players from DII schools. I go to Abilene Christian University which has produced Danieal Manning, Johnny Knox, and Benard Scott in recent years. His injury is a concern, but it is relatively unknown how good he actually is and how well he can cover. That said I doubt he will start, but I'm excited about watching him at camp to see what he can do. In the limited amount of film I have seen him in he looks like he is very quick and can move his hips well. He looks like he has good size and can play multiple positions in the secondary.

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    9ers made the playoffs their second year in the league.
    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sfo/

    lol Brannon

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    Miles Austin has seized the WR crown

    "One of the methods that former college football coach Bear Bryant used to settle positional battles early in his coaching career was the "challenge system." This allowed any player to call for a one-on-one battle with a starter. The two would go head-to-head in a variety of areas (blocking, tackling, receiving, etc.) to see who was the best at executing the key responsibilities of the position. The winner would claim the prize as starter.

    If such a system existed in the world of statistical analyses, there would be many potential challengers to Houston Texans wide receiver Andre Johnson for the le of best wide receiver in the NFL. Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss and Reggie Wayne all would serve as worthy foes for Johnson, but surprisingly enough, none of them would rank as the No. 1 contender.

    The real compe ion for Johnson as the NFL's premier wideout comes from within the state in which he plays pro football. Many might not consider Miles Austin to be an elite wideout yet, but he actually had a better set of metrics than any of the three other aforementioned contenders this past season.

    So did he do enough last season to beat the perceived champion for the belt?

    To find out, let's do it like Bryant's players and run a 10-stage challenge. We'll compare both Austin's and Johnson's yards per attempt (YPA) metrics in 10 main receiving categories. At the end, whoever has the most victories will win the honor of best wide receiver in the NFL.

    A full chart follows the breakdown by category.

    Short passes (thrown downfield 10 yards or fewer)
    Austin's 9.4 YPA topped Johnson's 6.0 mark by a 50 percent margin. That is enough to give him a win, but it is also worth noting that Austin didn't just beat Johnson in this metric but also led the entire league in this category.
    Challenge status: Austin 1, Johnson 0

    Medium passes (11-19 yards downfield)
    OK, so Austin wins on dinks and dunks, but can he beat Johnson on the deep out, deep in and comeback routes that make up the bulk of the medium-depth patterns? Not exactly, but he didn't lose to him, either. Austin and Johnson both gained 12.1 YPA on medium routes last season.
    Challenge status: Austin 1, Johnson 0, 1 tie

    Deep passes (20-29 yards downfield)
    For most receivers, the deeper the pass, the more likely it is they would lose to Johnson, but Austin won this category as well. His 20.3 mark ranked ninth in the league and nearly doubled Johnson's 10.9 YPA.
    Challenge status: Austin 2, Johnson 0, 1 tie

    Bomb-length passes (30 or more yards downfield)
    Go patterns are the kings of this route depth, and this is where Johnson starts to make his stand. His 26.1 YPA was seventh-best in the league overall and second-best among wideouts with 10 or more bomb attempts. It also nearly doubled Austin's 13.8 YPA mark.
    Challenge status: Austin 2, Johnson 1, 1 tie

    Vertical (all medium, deep and bomb passes)
    Johnson's lead in the bomb-pass category helped vault him over Austin in this all-encompassing category, but not by much. Johnson posted a 14.5 YPA mark, ranking 10th in the league, while Austin checked in with a 13.7 YPA total (which ranked 15th).
    Challenge status: Austin 2, Johnson 2, 1 tie

    Overall YPA (all route depths)
    Johnson's bomb-pass prowess helped him close enough ground to win the vertical category, but it wasn't enough to overcome Austin here. Austin's 11.2 overall YPA mark ranked fourth-best and was more than 2 yards ahead of Johnson's 9.9 YPA total.
    Challenge status: Austin 3, Johnson 2, 1 tie

    In the portion of this challenge based on depth of the pass route, Austin is the winner -- but distance alone is not the only indicator of how good a receiver is. Another way to measure receiving excellence is to see how well each wideout did when facing varying levels of compe ion.

    I went through the breakdown charts I did for every game from the 2009 season and pulled out the plays on which a receiver faced a cornerback. I then assigned color-coded grades to the cornerbacks based on their 2009 YPA totals (which can be found in the KC Joyner Metricmania section in the 2010 ESPN The Magazine fantasy football preview).

    Against cornerbacks who yield YPAs of 7 yards or fewer on average (red-rated CBs)
    Austin was hardly fazed by elite compe ion, as he posted 12.0 YPA against them. Johnson's 8.0 YPA in this category ranked 18th in the league but didn't keep up with Austin's total.
    Challenge status: Austin 4, Johnson 2, 1 tie

    Against CBs who yield 7-9 YPA on average (yellow-rated CBs)
    Austin put up 9.8 YPA here versus Johnson's 6.9. Another win for Austin.
    Challenge status: Austin 5, Johnson 2, 1 tie

    Against CBs who yield 9 or more YPA on average (green-rated CBs)
    Johnson was very good at dominating overmatched cornerbacks, something shown by his 14.6 YPA total here. He wasn't as good as Austin and his 17.7 YPA mark, however.
    Challenge status: Austin 6, Johnson 2, 1 tie

    Against CBs in general
    With wins in all three color-coded cornerback categories, it is obvious Austin won this part of the challenge as well (13.4 YPA versus Johnson's 9.9 mark), but just as was the case on short passes, it is worth noting that Austin ranked No. 1 in the league in this metric.

    It also means he won the compe ion by a score of 7-2-1."
    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insid...26id%3d5398251

    great in reciever

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    That's one of the most re ed articles I've ever read.

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    great in article

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    never go full re

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    I love the "Is Andre Johnson the league's best WR? He's certainly elite, but when you look closer, Miles Austin has seized the crown" on the front page of ESPN NFL.


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    Actually, the Niners made the playoffs just once in their first 20 years in the NFL, and that was in year #8.
    Hate to break it to ya, my friend, but they played a divisional playoff game against Detroit in 1957...they lost 31-27 after being ahead 27-7. If they had won, they would have been in the NFL Championship.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_49ers

    lol Benefactor...look on the right where it says Playoff Appearances.

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    Even says they made the playoffs in your own damn link...what an idiot. Look at the asterisk...made it in 1949 in the AAFC also..your link proved you even more wrong than you already were..if that's possible..

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    Cowboys and Dez have reached an agreement.

    Staaked imho

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    Cowboys and Dez have reached an agreement.

    Staaked imho
    ::whew::

    Dez Bryant Agrees To Terms
    Posted by nickeatman at 7/22/2010 5:45 PM CDT on truebluefanclub.com
    So much for a long holdout, or a holdout at all.

    The Cowboys have agreed to terms on a contract for rookie wide receiver Dez Bryant, meaning the 24th overall pick will be in camp for the first practice Saturday in San Antonio.

    Details of the contract have not been formally announced, however Cowboys vice president and director of player personnel Stephen Jones is scheduled to meet with the media Friday evening at 6:45 p.m.

    The Cowboys still have to agree on a deal with second-round pick Sean Lee, however, it is expected he will be signed by Friday as well.

    http://www.truebluefanclub.com/blogs...entId=blogDest

  22. #97
    Hate to break it to ya, my friend, but they played a divisional playoff game against Detroit in 1957.
    Which was their 8th season in the NFL, learn to count raisin nuts.

  23. #98
    9ers made the playoffs their second year in the league.

    Even says they made the playoffs in your own damn link...what an idiot. Look at the asterisk...made it in 1949 in the AAFC also..your link proved you even more wrong than you already were..if that's possible..

    1949 was their 4th year as a franchise, so regardless, you're still re ed. Since we both know he was talking about the NFL, he at least has an excuse. You obviously pulled the "2nd year" stat out of your ass.

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    Which was their 8th season in the NFL, learn to count raisin nuts.
    True..but it still makes them better than the Texans.

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    True..but it still makes them better than the Texans.

    They made the playoffs once from 1950-1969, maybe that's better than the Texans but not much better.

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