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    Blair will never be a franchise player. Hill has even less of a chance to be teh franchise player anywhere. I'll fully admit we may be surprised by Anderson but I really really really really doubt either he or Tiago is going to be a Franchise player.

    Without a true great player the jobs of other "good" players on teams get relaly difficult.

    Parker is the only Spur outside of Duncan capable of being a franchise.
    So you don't think the spurs will sign TP and/or other FAs along the way?

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    church it up all you want, his contract hurts the spurs future. You can argue who cares, but not that it doesn't hurt.
    Well you surely explained why his contract hurts the Spurs' future pretty thoroughly.

    Good job

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    So you don't think the spurs will sign TP and/or other FAs along the way?


    After I just get done explaining...Wow you just don't get it.

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    So you don't think the spurs will sign TP and/or other FAs along the way?
    You can't just sign a player - they have to agree. I think there is a very good chance TP bolts for a different city.

    And yeah, with or without RJ the Spurs didn't have room for a good free agent until Duncan's deal comes off the books.

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    You can't just sign a player - they have to agree. I think there is a very good chance TP bolts for a different city.

    And yeah, with or without RJ the Spurs didn't have room for a good free agent until Duncan's deal comes off the books.
    I guess he does not get it either bc he thinks tp is gone.

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    No you are not aware.

    R.J's new deal won't hinder their rebuilding process with Manu and Tim making double his salary the next 2 seasons. Spurs wouldn't be able to afford a significant free agent anyway the next 2 years with or without R.J's new deal.

    His new deal doesn't handcuff them in any potential signings or take away their future 1st round picks either.

    I also care about the future, but I'm fully aware R.J's contract (when it won't be as valuable to other teams --the first 2 seasons) won't hurt the Spurs from adding anything because of cap situation with Manu, Tim, Splitter, Bonner, Anderson, Blair, Hill, McDyess, Gee, Temple under contract. They will still only have around 5-7 million to make additions via MLE/ LLE with or without R.J's new deal.

    Entering his 3rd season, Tim's contract comes off the books for 20 million and Spurs will have valuable expiring contracts ( Manu and R.J's) to make a move(s) for the future.
    Excellent post. I wish more posters had this vision.

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    Well you surely explained why his contract hurts the Spurs' future pretty thoroughly.

    Good job
    It has been explained. Even before the deal was released.

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    It has been explained. Even before the deal was released.
    Post it.

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    Search it.

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    Don't have to...

    No you are not aware.

    R.J's new deal won't hinder their rebuilding process with Manu and Tim making double his salary the next 2 seasons. Spurs wouldn't be able to afford a significant free agent anyway the next 2 years with or without R.J's new deal.

    His new deal doesn't handcuff them in any potential signings or take away their future 1st round picks either.

    I also care about the future, but I'm fully aware R.J's contract (when it won't be as valuable to other teams --the first 2 seasons) won't hurt the Spurs from adding anything because of cap situation with Manu, Tim, Splitter, Bonner, Anderson, Blair, Hill, McDyess, Gee, Temple under contract. They will still only have around 5-7 million to make additions via MLE/ LLE with or without R.J's new deal.

    Entering his 3rd season, Tim's contract comes off the books for 20 million and Spurs will have valuable expiring contracts ( Manu and R.J's) to make a move(s) for the future.

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    That is you churching it up. Just like saying he will be an expiring asset down the road. Some of what you say is valid but you completely ignore some of the potential rammifications.

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    TP could very well be gone bc of this and your "explanation" does nothing to truly refute that. It is purely your opinion, like this is many of ours.

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    can someone tell me where we are regarding the lux tax?

    if not above, we should be right there, arent we?

    that said: it will hinder us, using the MLE ect., coz I dont see Holt paying the lux dollar for dollar with such a slight chance of winning a le.

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    TP could very well be gone bc of this and your "explanation" does nothing to truly refute that. It is purely your opinion, like this is many of ours.
    With R.J, Splitter, Bonner, Anderson and Neal now signed Spurs will be close to 58 million for the 2011/2012 season without Parker.

    With Parker, if his deal is back loaded, they may be able to fit him under the luxury tax (70.37 million; current lux-level; most likely to change) still if he doesn't look for a max-deal.

    If he does look for a max-deal, I don't expect Parker to be resigned especially if he has a so so year for his standards and if Hill and Temple continue to show significant progress.

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    With R.J, Splitter, Bonner, Anderson and Neal now signed Spurs will be close to 58 million for the 2011/2012 season without Parker.

    With Parker, if his deal is back loaded, they may be able to fit him under the luxury tax (70.37 million; current lux-level; most likely to change) still if he doesn't look for a max-deal.

    If he does look for a max-deal, I don't expect Parker to be resigned especially if he has a so so year for his standards and if Hill and Temple continue to show significant progress.
    so hope that wont go down as basically a Parker for RJ trade!

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    so hope that wont go down as basically a Parker for RJ trade!
    This next year will be very telling, if Parker has a great year and shows signs that he is still a top 3 PG, the Spurs could resign him at the deal he wants (close to the max or the max) and Spurs will be able to afford it under the luxury tax by trading McDyess next off-season even with R.J.

    If Parker doesn't have a great year, and Hill and Temple do have a great season. Spurs can sign and trade Parker to a team of his choice, so Spurs can net back value at other positions( If Hill and Temple prove to be the guys at PG).

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    God, the possible reality of TP leaving San Antonio has made me too damn sad.

    Peace out. Hurry up and start the damn season already.

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    This next year will be very telling, if Parker has a great year and shows signs that he is still a top 3, the Spurs could resign him at the deal he wants (close to the max or the max) and Spurs will be able to afford it under the luxury tax by trading McDyess next off-season even with R.J.

    If Parker doesn't have a great year, and Hill and Temple do have a great season. Spurs can sign and trade Parker to a team of his choice, so Spurs can net back value at other positions( If Hill and Temple prove to be the guys at PG).
    so hope that wont go down as basically a McDyess for RJ trade!

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    so hope that wont go down as basically a McDyess for RJ trade!
    McDyess is set to retire anyway but he still has a partially guaranteed contract, as a farewell thank you.

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    just made out like a bandit.
    How's everything, Luv?..

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    How's everything, Luv?..
    It is about time for him to cook his curry.

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    Look at this sensitive gook. You better pull ya panties up.
    Says the Post-Gasol Paki insecure Laker fan who comes on to a Spurs board looking for some recognition. It is about time to cook your curry, then feed and wash your goat.

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    I feel proud to be Asian, unlike some guy from Pakistan who pretends to be an American black athlete online.

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    I feel proud to be Asian, unlike some guy from Pakistan who pretends to be an American black athlete online.
    Isn't Pakistan considered to be part of South Asia?

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    Isn't Pakistan considered to be part of South Asia?
    There is a difference. He is a fake black American on the internet. And I am not from Pakistan.

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