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Now to cap off this trainwreck of an offseason, the Spurs need to trade Blair to the Lakers for 's special friend Luke.
It's one thing to have faith in Duncan, Parker or Manu since they've brought rings to this team but RJ - what has he done but been an "ill-fit" all season long.
If players like Nazr (or Butler/Haywood in DAL) can come in mid-season/after ASB and actually contribute while RJ has had a training camp, pre-season, regular season and playoffs to figure it out and still can't, what makes you or the FO think that anything will change? He shot 5/17 in his last 2 playoff games, averaging 8 points - he still hasn't figured it out - that's what pathetic.
And when it comes time to re-up Parker and Hill, where's the money to come from?
Now to cap off this trainwreck of an offseason, the Spurs need to trade Blair to the Lakers for 's special friend Luke.
When Duncan retires and if Parker is still around, they will not be a lottery team. Parker will be 30 and with a young core group of Tiago, Blair, Hill and Anderson (if he pans out). Parker did wonders two years ago with less talent (Gimpy TD, Finely, Bonner and Udoka). They will have cap room to sign some talent so I don't buy its a given they'll be a lottery team. Duncan hasn't been Duncan for awhile now.
If Parker is gone, then yeah lets hope for another fluke lottery gem.
I'm not sure how MIG thinks the Spurs are going to get a lottery pick before they become a lottery team.
About Jefferson. The Spurs had to sign him, we had no choice. Starting salary at 8.4 mil is not great, but its not as bad as some make it out to be. What bothers me is the 4th being guaranteed.
why not to offer 32 million? nobody will give him close to this and RJ will still say thanks for this offer!
link to where nobody will give him close to that.. or are you just assuming.
What bothers me about it is the fact that he never becomes an expiring contract and that he's here for three extra years. Unless the Spurs get very very lucky, the whole RJ fiasco is an example of throwing good money after bad.
Good God, a fully guaranteed $11M for a 34yr old that showed next to nothing in his only season with the ballclub...that is rediculous. Honestly, I could've been content with RJ back for 3 years at a number that doesn't effectively constrain roster flexibility in out-years...but I just don't see that with this deal. And to pre-empt the whole "who's going to care after Duncan and Ginobili are gone?" argument...
<-----------------this dude will.
After TD and Manu retire, the Spurs will be left with some nice young pieces to re-up and hope to build around. But, none of these guys are ready at this point to fully step into those roles, and those are some awfully big shoes to fill. So, the Spurs also need the flexibility to add additional, potentially major pieces to the roster. Having RJ at $11M is likely to severely hinder that.
Yeah, I'm definitely not liking what this deal means for long-term impact of the ballclub.
This is a good signing and its been a very good offseason. Anyone who says otherwise needs to remember that there are other teams in the League, bigger markets and the Spurs have done a pretty good job with what's available. Sure there are several much better small forwards and centers in the League, but San Antonio ain't having them in reality. Adding Splitter was nice, and bringing back Jefferson was a wise move. Jefferson can and will only get better with that infamous "corporate knowledge" acquired. If he were such a bad fit, such a poor on court and locker room presence then he would have been given his pink slip like Roger Mason.
Obviously the Spurs' front office have made some botches, such as the Luis Scola to Houston disaster, but all in all they've done a good job this summer and I'm looking for the Spurs to be better next season. I think they'll have as good a shot as anyone to beat the Lakers, assuming they stay healthy. But health is an X factor for any team in the NBA.
I knew someone was going to say that.
I guess I was reference the Spurs being a lotto team only because of injuries and not because they were terrible. When Duncan is gone they will simply be terrible.
Jefferson just turned 30, so when his contract is up in four years he'll still be 33, albeit completing 33 years. Again, I don't think the Spurs had many better options in this market. Good job bringing back Jefferson, fellas.
wait, so you're going to call me out on my weird post and then turn around and post that RJ never becomes an expiring contract? You think the Spurs are going to pay him forever? Pretty sure he's an expiring the moment he picks up his option.
Oh and people who think this isn't a lotto team without Duncan are doing one of two things:
1) Seriously underrating Duncan even the way he is now.
2) Seriously overrating players like Blair and Hill.
I'm also looking forward to the Spurs being better next season. What I'm not looking forward to is the possibility that Parker walks because the Spurs are unwilling to meet his salary demands due to the substantial luxury tax hit they'll take. I'm also not looking forward to the following years when Jefferson's fully guaranteed contract increases to eight figures and hinders the FOs ability to both extend their current young core and still add significant pieces via free agency.
But next year, yeah it's going to be great.
Unfortunately, I personally won't be able to enjoy the majority of this wonderful next season because I'll be taking a nice six-month vacation to the sandbox...but that's neither here nor there. I should be back for SPAM and the playoffs, which is what really counts.
May i ask a question here?
Do we have 100% certain that the 4th year is fully guaranteed? I´ve read in Manu´s forum that is partially guaranteed.
Do we have the specifics on the Bonner contract?
What will you do with all of this information, if it was made available to you?
From a value-to-the-team standpoint, he never does. If the final year is his option, he doesn't become an expiring contract because only he knows if he's going to opt out. Case in point: Richard Jefferson three weeks ago.
And yeah, I couldn't resist on your post.
What you mean is that in his 3rd year he won't be an expiring contract. I can't see any reason on earth why RJ opts out of that fourth year. In any event, the contract will have plenty of expiring value in the final year just like every other expiring contract.
damn, reading some of the posts here ... i guerss i just have more optimism about next year.
i think there's a lot ot look forward to and I happen to think the window is still very open for us.
Last year we had RMJ and Bogans as back up sg and sf, respectively. Anderson obviously is way more talented than both of those guys. Neal was a star in Europe an has more weapons offensively than Mason.
How are all the people that hate this unrealistic?
People smarter than you or I (namely Bruno and Timvp) hate it.
So you truly think this contract has absolutely no negative effect one way or the other?
With all due respect, your ing clueless.
I was talking about El Nono's wishful unrealistic scenario where he claims Spurs could have netted Korver or Mike Miller in a straight up sign and trade for R.J quite simply.
I disagreed and claimed that scenario was very unrealistic and very-far fetched.
*Hence the pessimistic unrealistic moron remark.*
Get a clue.
Counting on Anderson and Neal, who have not proven anything on the NBA level, to be better than RMJ and Bogans will probably lead to disappointment.
They aren't the reasons you should be optimistic. The reasons you should be optimistic are...
1) Tony Parker healthy and fresh
2) Tony Parker healthy and fresh
3) Return of key players
4) Addition of Splitter to frontline
5) Development of young core (Hill, Blair, Temple/Hairston/Gee)
Nothing good, for sure...
"I see you just don't get it"
"With all due respect, you are f*cking clueless"
"Get a clue"
You are like a human cliche.
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