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    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
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    Wine is for pompous bags.
    I couldn't disagree with you more. You obviously don't spend much time in bars and wineshops.

    The one time I saw Pop in person I was delivering wine in SA. Pop was obviously a bag, like you say. There to get his bag wines, no doubt. How pompous. What a .

    For the record, I also don't tie pastel sweaters around my neck.
    For the record, I seldom wear sweaters at all. I cast them aside when I'm done with them. Why do you mention it?

    What, you think wine drinking is effete and feminine or something? Have you asked the women in your life to confirm this impression for you? Might be worth checking out sometime, bud.

    Last edited by Winehole23; 07-24-2010 at 05:15 PM.

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    Certainly Darrin can look Google the vote for the 1991 Civil Rights Act that addressed le VII of the 1964 act and tell us the partisan makeup of the opposition to its passage in the Senate, can't he?

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    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
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    I remember chicks in high school drinking boone's.

    I can confirm that they were pompous bags.
    Fine, wine is for bags. bags drink wine. Please don't blame that all on wine, is all I'm saying.

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    Certainly Darrin can look Google the vote for the 1991 Civil Rights Act that addressed le VII of the 1964 act and tell us the partisan makeup of the opposition to its passage in the Senate, can't he?
    I'm thinking his google suddenly broke

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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    Fine, wine is for bags. bags drink wine. Please don't blame that all on wine, is all I'm saying.
    just curious, how much do you think wine should cost before it's really considered "wine".

    Also, is moscato a true wine?

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    I'm thinking his google suddenly broke

    Actually, I'm more than capable of finding the information, so I won't ask someone to do it for me.

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    Actually, I'm more than capable of finding the information, so I won't ask someone to do it for me.
    So, are you going to find it?

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    Fine, wine is for bags. bags drink wine. Please don't blame that all on wine, is all I'm saying.
    I remember when everyone was saying how great the movie "Sideways" was. When I watched it, I kept waiting for the good parts.

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    I remember when everyone was saying how great the movie "Sideways" was. When I watched it, I kept waiting for the good parts.
    Kinda like how I feel when I look through your posts tbh.

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    Kinda like how I feel when I look through your posts tbh.

    Oh great, another nut hugger remora like clambake.

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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    Actually, I'm more than capable of finding the information, so I won't ask someone to do it for me.
    Actually, you won't post the information even after you offered to do so.

    I found all the information I need to form my opinion that the article in the OP and this thread both are failures.

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    just curious, how much do you think wine should cost before it's really considered "wine".
    No set price. Your tastebuds will disclose your tolerance or aversion to cheaper wines. I like more than a few.

    Also, is moscato a true wine?
    Oh yes.

    The usual process is to cold-stop the fermentation, leading to a low alcohol result and residual sweetness. I don't drink a lot of sweet wine these days, but I do like sweet and think moscato -- properly cold, right? -- is refreshing. (Plus, bubbles are just fun. )
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    Actually, you won't post the information even after you offered to do so.

    I found all the information I need to form my opinion that the article in the OP and this thread both are failures.


    Some site dedicated to the history of congress appears to have the same data.


    http://www.congresslink.org/print_ba...ghts64text.htm



    The Republican Party was not so badly split as the Democrats by the civil rights issue. Only one Republican senator participated in the filibuster against the bill. In fact, since 1933, Republicans had a more positive record on civil rights than the Democrats. In the twenty-six major civil rights votes since 1933, a majority of Democrats opposed civil rights legislation in over 80 % of the votes. By contrast, the Republican majority favored civil rights in over 96 % of the votes.

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    Some site dedicated to the history of congress appears to have the same data.


    http://www.congresslink.org/print_ba...ghts64text.htm
    So history basically stops for you in 1964. Nothing at all has happened since then.

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    Your Google broke?


    Besides, what significant civil rights legislation has there been since then?


    Please explain.
    I can think of some gay civil rights legislation that's come up recently... as well as some various other legislation, like the Lily Ledbetter fair pay act.

    Do you recall how many Republicans voted for that fair pay act, DarrinS?

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    (I like the still botrytized [i.e.,dessert] versions too. )

    BTW, what exactly do you mean by true wine, Blake? I'm just assuming you meant juice from vinifera only.

    Is that what you meant?

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    Some site dedicated to the history of congress appears to have the same data.


    http://www.congresslink.org/print_ba...ghts64text.htm
    eh same stuff.

    I think what's disingenuous about the article you posted is the way the voting on bills like the CRA was separated out by the author into Democrats and Republicans instead of northerners and southerners.

    What exactly is the Democratic view of parties tolerance as you know it?

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    Strom Thurmond and who else? Jesse Helms? Who else?
    Good point. It's not like Strom Thurmond really had any power in the Republican party, and he was rightfully marginalized by the Republican party.

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    No set price. Your tastebuds will disclose your tolerance or aversion to cheaper wines. I like more than a few.
    Personally I think the high end wines can get a little pretentious and ridiculously expensive but like you, my taste buds rebel at the really low end table wines...I can usually find a reasonable compromise in the $10 range...My current favorite as a compromise for price/taste is a 2006 Terrazas Reserve Malbec. Very nice. I recently bought several cases.

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    DarrinS post template:

    Link to an article
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    Force others to do research
    Create another strawman
    Create a strawman off the 2nd strawman when 2nd strawman is rebunked
    Meaningless trite remark

    Claim victory

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    And everyone knows that the best wines are Mad Dog 20/20 and Boones...

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    (I like the still botrytized [i.e.,dessert] versions too. )

    BTW, what exactly do you mean by true wine, Blake? I'm just assuming you meant juice from vinifera only.

    Is that what you meant?
    Yeah, I'm referring to dessert wines and "kid" wines like boone's strawberry hill and other koolaid flavors that run $3 a bottle......

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    DarrinS post template:

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    Meaningless trite remark

    Claim victory

    If by "force others to do research" you mean that I refuse to Google for others, then I'm guilty as charged.

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    For the international palate, South America delivers on quality and price for sure. (I like em, but it's not really my thing. I'm more into old wine and things I've never tried before.)

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    So anyone in here make their own wine? I've planted about 300' of grapevines so far (two varieties) that should start bearing next year. I'm looking forward to playing with it. I'm hoping to put up a decent table wine.

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