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Parker reminds me of the freshman kid in college who takes everything their professor tells them as 100% fact. Then you think no one else knows this great piece of info. So it is your civic duty to inform us no-nothing average americans.
The constant drug reference/avoidance of material issues/lack of depth of argument/base attempts at insult give you away as having a juvenile mentality. I guess that actually says nothing about your age though.
Parker reminds me of the freshman kid in college who takes everything their professor tells them as 100% fact. Then you think no one else knows this great piece of info. So it is your civic duty to inform us no-nothing average americans.
Again: Did anyone actually watch this?
Hence the big question mark in the le, lol...
I was so sure I am the only one who knows this "great piece of info" I started out clueless? Maybe you already have your mind made up about me, and you cant see the contradictions with those assumptions right in front of your damn face, fool...
Wasnt there an article about that a week or so ago?
I was actually hoping one of you know-it-all mofos would pick it apart with some credible criticisms...the best you all could do was ask for a summary, and personally attack me.
Sounds like the dumbed-down electorate is alive and well.
You know, I used to think Ron Paul was a dumbass for focusing so much on the gold standard.
Ok, he is kinda a dumbass for focusing on that, as it doesn't translate well with voters. But on the actual issue, the financial people can't seem to agree what the to do with a damn economy. I'm also tempted to just try out his method, for all its faults (and there are big ones, don't get me wrong. The gold standard is not a magic fix-all.)
Even if we WENT to his method, I'm not sure if gold would be a good neutral to base other prices off of.
I voted for Obama, but if I'd known he would be so crappy on civil liberties, I would've voted Ron Paul, crazy though he is. Even if he does think atheists are out to destroy Christmas.
TBH, plenty of countries collapsed because the govt had the money printing machine under their control. What ends up happening is that politicos start thinking they have the free money machine, the currency dilutes to a level that you have to go through an hyper-inflationary crisis that basically collapses your economy before you come out on the other side.
While I'm no fan of the completely unregulated Fed that we have, this borrowing system does provide an accountability aspect to the political class that's important to have. Every check we cut to pay interest on the debt is a good reminder that we're spending too much, and that money isn't 'free'.
Last edited by ElNono; 07-23-2010 at 10:34 PM.
What are you, like 12 years old and just found out about the political allegory in the Oz?
old news is old.
From wiki
Historians and economists who read the original 1900 book as a political allegory interpret the Tin Woodman as the dehumanized industrial worker, badly mistreated by the Wicked Witch of the East who rules Munchkin Country before the cyclone creates a political revolution and kills her. The Woodman is rusted and helpless—ineffective until he starts to work together with the Scarecrow (the farmer), in a Farmer-Labor coalition that was much discussed in the 1890s, which culminated in the Farmer-Labor Party in Minnesota (which still exists today as the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party).
The Oz is god damn communism!
Its frustrating dealing with the posters on this site most days. You guys spout out your preconcieved notions and the you already believe, and you refuse to ask questions. You mofos know it all already. Or you find a small blurb on wikipedia and twist it up to conform to your condemnation of things you dont understand.
This film condemns the gold standard as completely unworkable, and contrary to the interests of the citizens. Watch the film.
Dont be afraid to keep asking questions.
Dont think you know every ing thing.
Wake up sheep. (Except El Nono. I appreciate your take.)
Personally, I am constantly challenging theories, trying to integrate new knowledge. I understand the necessisty for learning, the value of growth. I dont mind taking new ideas, challenging myself to either debunk them or integrate them into my own view.
You mofos need to try it.
The panic dude did exactly what you did...he jumped in spouting off his pre-concieved b/s, not bothering to consider what was being presented for his consideration.
The two of you are two peas, honestly, and as for you you have no ing idea what the tin man allegory was all about. Wikipedia just made you sound like a dumbass,.
Who says technology isnt grand?
As a general rule, assume that wing-nuts have a short attention span or they would have finished college - so, the longer the video, the less likely they are to watch and the more likely they are to make ass hat judgments.....I've watched some of the video but it's really choppy for me to the point were it's annoying...anyone else having this issue?
So far, its a lot of what already has been posted in this forum in many threads about the debt mixed in with wing-nut commentary about doom and gloom..
Anybody see that Oz remake/sequel with Fairuza Balk as a little kid in the 80s? Boy that sucked.
because of how over printed the dollar is, we would collapse if we went back on the gold standard. we could make montetarist policy that increases with an annual rate.You know, I used to think Ron Paul was a dumbass for focusing so much on the gold standard.
Ok, he is kinda a dumbass for focusing on that, as it doesn't translate well with voters. But on the actual issue, the financial people can't seem to agree what the to do with a damn economy. I'm also tempted to just try out his method, for all its faults (and there are big ones, don't get me wrong. The gold standard is not a magic fix-all.)
Even if we WENT to his method, I'm not sure if gold would be a good neutral to base other prices off of.
I voted for Obama, but if I'd known he would be so crappy on civil liberties, I would've voted Ron Paul, crazy though he is. Even if he does think atheists are out to destroy Christmas.
then again why take away politician's ability to promise the world to get elected.
we would lose the entire dem party and all the rhinos.
pre-conceived? i actually watched the .The panic dude did exactly what you did...he jumped in spouting off his pre-concieved b/s, not bothering to consider what was being presented for his consideration.
The two of you are two peas, honestly, and as for you you have no ing idea what the tin man allegory was all about. Wikipedia just made you sound like a dumbass,
Who says technology isnt grand?
nothing with fairuza balk could suck. i would have to see.
those eyes man. they burn your soul.
Where did yu get tariffs from the film? the only time it was talked abut was when it was revealed that that was simply the red herring of the day...much like abortion and immigration are today.
Those issues are meant to polarize the electorate, to divide and conquer as they say...to keep us completely preoccupied while they swindle max profits from our currency and shoot banker-splooge on our collective backsides.
i didn't get tariffs from the film. i said i was all for tariffs so that we could force consumers to buy american.
agreed about abortion and immigration. i even agree that its all a game for the rich and powerful to become more rich and powerful. i just said that i no longer care. until our eventual collapse and the american economic ghandi is found afterwards, i will just happily pay my bills/taxes/etc, and go on with life. no need for the tin foil hat.
It didn't want to load for me, so I'm relying on whatever's said here to get my bearings.
Sounds like Mises theory of credit cycles is cited; sounds like hard money as a tool of the money masters to create artificial scarcity receives emphasis over the role of commodity-backed money as a restrainer of debt and a store of value.
What else?
My synopsis:
The film's narrator advocates a currency which is in the sole control of the US congress, whereby allowing us to print money without having to borrow and pay interest to anyone. A bank of the US, with "greenbacks" backed by nothing but US's word, and under which currency is kept flowing sufficient to keep markets liquid and quality of living sufficient for all classes, and with currency limited to keep inflation down. Like the state bank of North Dakota operates currently. (3.4-3.8 unemployment rate in ND)
Gold standard's utility is a lie, driven by misinformation/ fear mongering by bankers who want control over the economy's cycles, and the profits that flow from that power.
We cant seem to keep bankers away from the currency over history, where they swarm like flies to interst earnings in excess of 1000% (when they are in control of the money printing). Without this system, we could print money free from borrowing and free from interest payments which, in the film's view, will destroy the country in the coming decades.
All this was incorporated, through symbolism, into the Wizard of Oz. Yellow brick road, silver slippers, the scarecrow was the farmer's who marched on Washington in the 1890's, tin man was industry which seized up due to a loss in liquidity, Lion was William Jennings Bryan, an advocate of incorporating silver into the gold std, which would have taken the currency out of the sole control of bankers.
And dorothy had the power to return back to the farm all along, as we have the power to return our economy back to prosperity, by booting banks from our system of currency.
Winehole, I would be very interested to get your take if you do get a chance to watch the film. I did get it to load again today so you might try it again at some point.
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