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    Correct me if I am wrong aside from Tiago signing the Spurs off season changes has basically boiled down to this:

    Out : Bogans and Masson
    In: Anderson and Neal

    Did I miss anyone else?
    Oh come to think of it : we can add:
    Ian: out
    Tiago: In
    But really no point in analyzing who is better between the two so that does not count.

    But between Anderson-Neal vs Bogans-Masson. Are we better off ? Is there really any significant difference. I actually don't see it.

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    Nothing, and I mean NOTHING could be worse than Bogans and Mason from last year. You could honestly put lakaluva and DazedandConfused in Bogans/Mason's positions and they'd do a better job.

    It's a shame the Spurs had to bring Bonner back, but at least they removed 2/3 of their dead weight from last year.

    Though I'm not exactly holding my breath for RJ this season.

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    Anderson and Neal have the chance to be the best shooting duo the Spurs have ever had, well at least the best since Kerr, Barry, Horry, and Jax.

    Mason and Bogans couldn't find the barn door if the cows were in front of it doing the chicken dance.

    It leaves us undersized, but Anderson and Neal could be really good additions if they can fit and live up to their billing.

    Just look at their pedigree- Italian league MVP and Big 12 player of the year.

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    those two over bogans is an upgrade for sure and hopefully mason will soon be forgotten

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    Nothing, and I mean NOTHING could be worse than Bogans and Mason from last year.
    This.

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    theyre both unproven at the NBA level, but definitely have the potential to be far better than mason and bogans could ever dream of being

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    Soooo...Neal is gonna be on the big-league roster AND get PT?

    Sounds like a tall order, especially considering he's under 30 and his coach is Gregg Popovich.

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    Ok obviously Anderson and Neal are way better shooters and scorers. However Bogans mainly got PT for his defense, the way I see it between RJ and Anderson both have to step up their defense this year for us to go anywhere. In fact I think more than offense what RJ has to give us is better defense. We can't afford to have a guy (RJ) playing close to 30 min and giving crapy defense. Especially if the guy coming in to sub him ( Anderson) is not know for D.

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    the roster in the coming season has way more excitement than last year

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    Anderson and Neal should be regarded as Mason Jr replacements and they cannot be any worse than him. I guess Hairston will take some of Bogans minutes at sf but that seems to be our weakest position and we really need another long, tough, defensive minded sf.

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    I really can't see Hariston or Gee taking the place of Bogans , especially in terms of playing time. If any of the 2 get the same minutes Bogans got, we are definetly screwed. The defense really has to come from someone else , who will actually get court time . And that role lands on no one else but RJ and Anderson

    Anderson and Neal should be regarded as Mason Jr replacements and they cannot be any worse than him. I guess Hairston will take some of Bogans minutes at sf but that seems to be our weakest position and we really need another long, tough, defensive minded sf.

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    We were not screwed with Bogans getting heavy minutes last season??? If Hairston cannot even take some of Bogans minutes next season he should not even be on the team.

    I hope Anderson will get plenty of minutes but I don't count on it and I certainly don't see Pop letting him play sf if he gets abused by bigger players there. Maybe Manu will have to slide over to sf. However the ideal thing would be to have a Bowen type player at sf.

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    Get used to it we don't and won't have a Bowen type player at SF. Guys like RJ , Anderson just have suck it up and play D. It dosen't take great atleticim to play D. Bowen was no way as athletic as RJ. This is more a mental thing than anything.

    As to Hariston should'nt even be on the team, yeah he actually might not even make the team and even if he did I would be surprise if he got any significant PT

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    We were not screwed with Bogans getting heavy minutes last season??? If Hairston cannot even take some of Bogans minutes next season he should not even be on the team.

    I hope Anderson will get plenty of minutes but I don't count on it and I certainly don't see Pop letting him play sf if he gets abused by bigger players there. Maybe Manu will have to slide over to sf. However the ideal thing would be to have a Bowen type player at sf.
    i agree call me stupid but i think IF parker decides to not re-sign and we must trade this is something we should def go after a of a wing defender at SF (batnum) that can play bad ass on both ends and a defensive center or trade for a SF and a top draft pick froma ty team who will be high.
    so but now that we have splitter/blair/hill for the future if we can add those two things we can be a bad ass team for many years to come

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    Get used to it we don't and won't have a Bowen type player at SF. Guys like RJ , Anderson just have suck it up and play D. It dosen't take great atleticim to play D. Bowen was no way as athletic as RJ. This is more a mental thing than anything.

    As to Hariston should'nt even be on the team, yeah he actually might not even make the team and even if he did I would be surprise if he got any significant PT
    I agree that we will not have a Bowen type player next season and contrary to yourself I see that as a problem.

    It takes athleticism to play D and great athleticism to be a great defender. Ever read any scouting reports like in pre draft analyses? Bowen was both very athletic and extremely tough.

    As for Hairston getting signed, it seems the FO are high on him since they let him skip summer league and he has some experience of the Spurs system already. Again, I wish we had a better option than Hairston at backup sf. Anderson is a sg who will struggle on D against taller sf.

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    Actually I am in agreement that perimeter defense is a huge question mark for this season. I see where the shooting will come from ( Anderson, Neal). But defense , i'm not sure. And I don't think we have a choice but to rely on the players who will get court time. (RJ and Anderson). I don't see Hariston getting significant court time. There just isn't enough minutes to share at the wing, with Manu, RJ and Hill all getting close to 30 min, plus Anderson's 15 + min .

    The only way I see us getting a quality defensive Bowen or Odom like player is via trade. And TP is our best trading asset. You've got to give to get


    I agree that we will not have a Bowen type player next season and contrary to yourself I see that as a problem.

    It takes athleticism to play D and great athleticism to be a great defender. Ever read any scouting reports like in pre draft analyses? Bowen was both very athletic and extremely tough.

    As for Hairston getting signed, it seems the FO are high on him since they let him skip summer league and he has some experience of the Spurs system already. Again, I wish we had a better option than Hairston at backup sf. Anderson is a sg who will struggle on D against taller sf.

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    anderson is a rookie and will need some time to adjust to the nba

    neal having played pro ball for 3 years will have a quicker adjustment to the nba.

    both are natural shooters that both bogans and mason really never were.

    anderson is way more athletic than bogans or mason.

    not sure abour neal's athleticism, but i hoping it is better than mason or bogans.

    mason was terrible in that he didn't really leap that high and was very weak driving to the basket.

    bogans only offense was the spot up shot, anything beyond that was a bad shot. bogans also didn't ssem to have the length and athleticism to bother a good sg.

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    Actually I am in agreement that perimeter defense is a huge question mark for this season. I see where the shooting will come from ( Anderson, Neal). But defense , i'm not sure. And I don't think we have a choice but to rely on the players who will get court time. (RJ and Anderson). I don't see Hariston getting significant court time. There just isn't enough minutes to share at the wing, with Manu, RJ and Hill all getting close to 30 min, plus Anderson's 15 + min .

    The only way I see us getting a quality defensive Bowen or Odom like player is via trade. And TP is our best trading asset. You've got to give to get
    hairston likely will have a lot of playing time early in the season. in fact, if gee is still around by the stat, he likely will get playing time over anderson and neal.

    it could take some time for these two to know the system.

    the plus with these two is that they play the pick and role so much better than hairston or gee.

    i for some reason feel that hairston and gee don't really have high basketball iq.

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    Neal is purely a situational 3 point specialist. don't see him getting more than 10 min a game. He can either play the 1 or 2, but even if he plays the one with say Manu, don't expect him to handle the ball and make plays , Manu although the SG will do the playmaking with Neal playing off the ball much like Steve Kerr played of Jordan. So essentially Neal is strictly a shooting guard

    While Anderson athough a rookie stands a good 4 inches taller than Neal which will allow him to play some small forward. I don't see how Neal strictly a SG gets more playing time than Anderson given we're loaded at the SG with Manu and HIll

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    Actually I am in agreement that perimeter defense is a huge question mark for this season. I see where the shooting will come from ( Anderson, Neal). But defense , i'm not sure. And I don't think we have a choice but to rely on the players who will get court time. (RJ and Anderson). I don't see Hariston getting significant court time. There just isn't enough minutes to share at the wing, with Manu, RJ and Hill all getting close to 30 min, plus Anderson's 15 + min .

    The only way I see us getting a quality defensive Bowen or Odom like player is via trade. And TP is our best trading asset. You've got to give to get
    Agreed except that who will get PT is not set but depends on who will help us win games. We will see lots of experimentation since we bring in a couple of new players and Pop is Pop. Also it will depend on the opposition. I would hope they will avoid having Anderson defend elite, tall small forwards, but who knows, last season we had some crazy (small) lineups in the regular season.

    I'm a little surprised that it is so difficult to find a decent defensive sf. The FO got extremely lucky finding Bowen and since then has done a very poor job at finding a replacement. I don't want them to trade TP though and it should not be necessary in order to find a backup sf.

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    Neal is purely a situational 3 point specialist. don't see him getting more than 10 min a game. He can either play the 1 or 2, but even if he plays the one with say Manu, don't expect him to handle the ball and make plays , Manu although the SG will do the playmaking with Neal playing off the ball much like Steve Kerr played of Jordan. So essentially Neal is strictly a shooting guard

    While Anderson athough a rookie stands a good 4 inches taller than Neal which will allow him to play some small forward. I don't see how Neal strictly a SG gets more playing time than Anderson given we're loaded at the SG with Manu and HIll
    Anderson is listed at 6'6", Neal is listed at 6'4". So its more like "2 inches taller".

    Neal may be a liability in defense.

    Long term, I would see Anderson getting the more minutes than Temple, Neal, Hairston and Gee. Short term, I expect Hairston to get a lot of minutes.

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    Anderson is listed at 6'6", Neal is listed at 6'4". So its more like "2 inches taller".

    Neal may be a liability in defense.

    Long term, I would see Anderson getting the more minutes than Temple, Neal, Hairston and Gee. Short term, I expect Hairston to get a lot of minutes.
    tp: 33 minutes:
    manu: 28 minutes
    Hill: 35 minutes

    that leaves 0 minutes for a sg. Essentially, probably we would have a situational 3pt shooter only.

    Anderson will probably see most of his minutes at the 3 unless there is an injury.

    RJ will play around 33 minutes too; that really just leaves 15 minutes. those will be up for grabs.

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    So the Spurs' guard depth is a rookie and a s bag who had to play in Europe for a while.

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    Yet, he was not.

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    Anderson Will Surprise alot of people..... I think he has a Bright Career In The NBA

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