you think Jefferson woulda put them over the top?
After the 2009 season Shaq was by far a better option than VC or . He had just made the AS game and looked rejuvenated, Lebron shoulda been on Shaq's ass like Kobe's on Gasol's ass so Shaq wouldn't put on 50 pounds after the 2009 season was over like he did. I'll give you the Amare thing, but we both know that if Lebron went to the front office and said get Amare, they would have in an instant.
Did Moon and Parker use hypnosis to make Lebron stop attacking the rim and go 3-14 in game 5?
These arguments are so bad
Even if Lebron wanted these moves to be made, he's not a ing GM..as we have seen with many, if not all the top players that have been in that position, they have no idea how to properly evaluate other players' talents and make moves..it's not his job, his job is to play basketball..
A good GM doesn't listen to that..when Kobe asked for Bynum to be traded, Kupchak didn't listen, for example..
Also, where did it say that Lebron asked for these moves to be made?..I could be wrong, but I don't remember that..if Wojo is the source, then obviously that's an extremely biased source..that would be like giving me sources, and then listening to my opinion about Kobe..
The argument that Cleveland couldn't make any moves because Lebron didn't sign a contract through 2010 is
I've already shown why Lebron's teams and supporting casts failed in the playoffs in past threads, it's not really arguable..it's a reach of an argument, especially since he put up a historic playoff run in 2009, and he had one of the best overall playoffs of anybody in 2010, even when he struggled at times vs. Boston..
The in Phoenix Suns managed to keep his weight and conditioning under control, given how much you want Lebron's in your ass I figure he would be able to as well.
Also, he signed an extension the year before he would have been a restricted free agent and would have had any offer matched by Cleveland. Lets not pretend he stayed in Cleveland any longer than he had to.
The only way to prove if somebody actually quit is if they stop shooting IMO..
King averaged 11 FTA per game during the playoffs, and he exceeded that in game 5, by shooting 12 free throws..but ya, he stopped attacking the paint and played so much differently
HarlemHeat as usual delivering the goodsThese arguments are so bad
Even if Lebron wanted these moves to be made, he's not a ing GM..as we have seen with many, if not all the top players that have been in that position, they have no idea how to properly evaluate other players' talents and make moves..it's not his job, his job is to play basketball..
A good GM doesn't listen to that..when Kobe asked for Bynum to be traded, Kupchak didn't listen, for example..
Also, where did it say that Lebron asked for these moves to be made?..I could be wrong, but I don't remember that..if Wojo is the source, then obviously that's an extremely biased source..that would be like giving me sources, and then listening to my opinion about Kobe..
The argument that Cleveland couldn't make any moves because Lebron didn't sign a contract through 2010 is
I've already shown why Lebron's teams and supporting casts failed in the playoffs in past threads, it's not really arguable..it's a reach of an argument, especially since he put up a historic playoff run in 2009, and he had one of the best overall playoffs of anybody in 2010, even when he struggled at times vs. Boston..
So when LeBron keeps shooting he's some kind of awesome warrior but when Kobe keeps shooting you're all over it like flies on .
The only way to prove if somebody actually quit is if they stop shooting IMO..
King averaged 11 FTA per game during the playoffs, and he exceeded that in game 5, by shooting 12 free throws..but ya, he stopped attacking the paint and played so much differently
The Phoenix Suns have miracle-workers in their medical staff, this is obviously common knowledge..the fact that they maintained Shaq's weight and kept him motivated, but the greatest coach of all-time and a top 10 player of all-time couldn't, speaks volumes on that IMO..
What does me wanting King's penis in my ass have to do with anything?..
Crucify em HarlemHeat, tie that 0 and forever Sun fan ass to the tree of woe!
What a stupid generalization, and it doesn't even make any sense..
I've defended Kobe shooting a high amount of times a lot more than I've criticized him for it..as I've said many times, I've always found the criticism of Kobe shooting a high number of shots to be a ridiculous argument, and I hate when my fellow Kobe haters use it..
It makes sense at certain times, like when Pau doesn't touch the ball or when he goes 6-24 and people on his own team criticize him for it, but it's a poor argument most of the time, especially in regards to the 2006 and 2007 Lakers..
That has nothing to do with this argument anyways..Kobe stopped shooting for an entire half of the most important game of the season..there's a huge middle ground between not shooting for the half(or barely shooting, however amount of FGAs he actually took) and taking 24 inefficient shots in a game 7..
The Phoenix Suns' medical staff can only lead a horse to water, it's up to the horse to drink. The slow start Cleveland got off to every year speaks volumes about Lebron IMO.
You desiring the sodomization of Lebron is relevant because you view him as some ungodly leader. Someone as awesome at leading as Lebron surely wouldn't let his teammates put on 50 pounds in an off season.
So you wanted Lebron to monitor Shaq's activity during the off-season?..his time off from basketball?..
Do you hold Phil Jackson and Kobe to these same standards?..they certainly failed at keeping Shaq's weight in check, he even missed parts of the regular season multiple times due to his poor work ethic..
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Oops went a little too far with my culburn impersonation.
Yeah, he would have had to play like the best player on the court. Since he was the best player on the court, that doesn't seem like too much to ask.
Kobe was blasted at the time he demanded a trade. He was even booed in LA. People forget this.
I'm surprised no one has brought up 6-24 yet, unless I missed it. Lebron's close out game destroys Kobe's.
When he saw how much weight Shaq was putting on, he shoulda basically said listen fatass this is my team and I'm not gonna put up with teammates getting lazy and fat.
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How things change.
All of a sudden Danny Ferry and Cleveland front office were just a bunch of morons who could´t bring enough talent to help Lebron.
Nevermind that Jamison was considered by almost everyone a better fit to Cleveland than Amare because of his outside game and they got him for free. Or that Mo Williams was an all star and considered a great acquisition until he chocked on the playoffs.
Yes they didn't make all the best moves but they did it to try to win a championship now and most people sucking on Lebron were giving their nod to those moves and now use them to justify why he left.
Brilliant analysis. I totally forgot about that part where the Lakers won the le.
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