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    I completely disagree. This team is no where near a true contender as is.

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    I completely disagree. This team is no where near a true contender as is.
    So what do you propose we do? We did beat the #2 seed in the west last season before we ran out of gas and faced the worst matchup possible.

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    I don't think there is any thing they can do. The best option was a S&T for RJ, but that ship has sailed. The best they can hope for is some unexpected trade to happen that works out perfectly.

    Other than that, we will just have to be content with being a very solid basketball team that has no shot at a le imo.

    The difference between the number 2 seed last year and the number 1 seed was far greater than the difference between everyone else.

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    I honestly believe this team can contend as is. While we did get swept last season we weren't that far behind the compe on to be honest. We rarely had parker on the floor all season and he was pretty ineffective coming back since he was so out of sync and unfamiliar. I think if RJ improves and Blair and Hill continue to get better than we are right there in the hunt. Tony will be a beast next season during his contract year and if we can get some solid play out of Splitter/Anderson/Hairston rather than Mason and Bogans than were seeing a huge improvement right there. This team is good enough.
    The Spurs should be better than last year, but if you want to use the word "contend" then that means going through the lakers. I just don't see the Spurs, as currently configured, having the offensive firepower, the depth or enough size up front to take them down.

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    Yes contend for a le. Phoenix last year was contending for a le. they were 1 of 4 teams left in the whole NBA. Do I think we are better than LA? Of course not but there are many things that can change that throughout the season. Do I think when healthy we can and are still the 2nd best team in the west? I do.

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    Yes. And Yes. RT @mikewu43 Do the Spurs look to sign a backup to RJ or will they let Hairston/Gee/Neal duke it out for backup spot?

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    McGrady Had Physical With Clippers Tuesday
    Jul 21, 2010 3:34 PM EST

    Tracy McGrady underwent a physical with the Clippers on Tuesday and was scheduled to work out for the team on Wednesday.

    It was reported last week that McGrady would work out for the Clippers on Tuesday.

    Read more: http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap/#ixzz0uLeVpDKj

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    It looks like Anderson will be the backup SF.

    Maybe the Spurs will sign Simmons or Hayes for a minimum contract

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    rasual butler gone

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    I certainly hope they're not talking about making Neal a backup 3.

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    It looks like Anderson will be the backup SF.

    Maybe the Spurs will sign Simmons or Hayes for a minimum contract
    Even though the 2 & 3 positions are interchangeable in the Spurs system, I personally, don't think Anderson is suited for the 3 spot. He's too small and not nearly physical enough to guard the typical NBA 3 men. He'd be better off seeing his action at the 2 spot.

    Gee, on the other hand, is more physical, rebounds well and defends a heckuva lot better. He and Hairston should get the lionshare of minutes behind RJ.

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    well it looks like out of the top 15 only josh howard and the euro player is all that's left. With the 2.4 or 2.08 the spurs can offer they should either take a gamble on howard or just play gee.
    +1

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    I guess it's Gee.

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    The 2 players the Spurs may look are Hayes and Simmons but I think they'll go with Gee and Malik. I think we need one more vet at SF but I think it won't happen

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    Pete Mickeal stays in Barcelona

    Another year with Regal Barça for the American

    Regal Barcelona announced that Pete Mickeal will stay with the team another season. Mickeal was one of the most dominant players in Euroleague last year averaging 12ppg.

    http://www.sportando.net/eng/europe/...barcelona.html

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    The 2 players the Spurs may look are Hayes and Simmons but I think they'll go with Gee and Malik. I think we need one more vet at SF but I think it won't happen
    vets like Hayes and Simmons don't change the whole picture. much like Bogans and Udoka didn't. Gee and Malik at least offer some upside. little upside, but still upside.

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    Unless I'm mistaken, Ruff was only referring to the sf backup, which many Popologists here are clamoring for YET ANOTHER signing in addition to Jefferson which would probably completely shut out any chance of Gee or Hairston to crack the rotation. Totally unnecessary IMO.

    But hey, now that you've brought up Jefferson, spurs should have just let him go his separate way, his value is limited because he wasn't productive at all until Pop paired him up with Ginobili and Hill. And unless Pop plans to bring Parker off the bench again his game will go back into the toilet.
    At this point in the discussion, yes, I was just referring to the backup SF. It's pretty clear to me that we don't need a scrub vet when we have two young-uns with potential who need some minutes to show us what they've got.

    On other matters, this year is a real test for RJ... blurgh. I was going to write something about RJ, but you know what, I can't be bothered. the RJ signing. I hate it. Such a short-term bull move. I'm going to leave off talking about him for a few months and see if I can get over it because I really don't want to go into the season hating on a Spur. That's not my style.

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    At this point in the discussion, yes, I was just referring to the backup SF. It's pretty clear to me that we don't need a scrub vet when we have two young-uns with potential who need some minutes to show us what they've got.

    On other matters, this year is a real test for RJ... blurgh. I was going to write something about RJ, but you know what, I can't be bothered. the RJ signing. I hate it. Such a short-term bull move. I'm going to leave off talking about him for a few months and see if I can get over it because I really don't want to go into the season hating on a Spur. That's not my style.
    I don't mind hating on a Spurs player, but I'm always rooting for him to prove me wrong when gametime rolls around.

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    At this point in the discussion, yes, I was just referring to the backup SF. It's pretty clear to me that we don't need a scrub vet when we have two young-uns with potential who need some minutes to show us what they've got.

    On other matters, this year is a real test for RJ... blurgh. I was going to write something about RJ, but you know what, I can't be bothered. the RJ signing. I hate it. Such a short-term bull move. I'm going to leave off talking about him for a few months and see if I can get over it because I really don't want to go into the season hating on a Spur. That's not my style.
    When RJ was making 13-15 mil people hated him for making so much...
    Now RJ will be making 8 mil and people still hate for making so much..
    C'mon people, the spurs have next to nothing at SF without RJ. Some of you are dreaming if you really think Hairston and/or Gee will ever become legit NBA players. It is always funner to root for the young up and coming player but yall need a dose of reality. Good organizations do not put on the line the entire season on HOPING that one of these young guys will develop into a solid player, they pay for established pieces and feel in the gaps with these young guys so that if they do not develop (which majority do not) then the season is not a lost cause and if they do develop you have cheap players signed for years to come and have something for the following season to build on. Back to my original reason for posting, why hate the player when we all know the organization (esp. the spurs) runs things to a T and nothing is done by chance. Hate the spurs front office not the players for accepting contracts offered to them and if you cannot get over that then it may be time to root for another team..With that said I am looking forward to another winning season.

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    i would bet money on RJ becoming a better 3-point shooter next year. i can guarantee that Pop told him to focus on that. he's was pitifully bad last year in this area, but it was the first time in his career he was asked to be somewhat of a spot up shooter on offense. he doesn't have to be great shooting it from everwhere, just a spot on the floor to help this team out a lot. we saw Hill be able to hit the corner three with accuracy this year and we saw how much that helped the team. i expect the same from RJ. At least we can know that this is definitely an aspect of his game he worked on over the summer, now question about that. he shot 39% for a year with the Bucks so there's reason to believe he can still work out for this team. so I see Hill as someone who you can compare in terms of his 3-point shot after a year with the Spurs.

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    Well with Butler going back to the Clips and Howard going back to the Wizards these SF are left:

    18. Bobby Simmons
    19. Tracy McGrady
    20. Jarvis Hayes
    21. Bostjan Nachbar
    22. Rodney Carney
    23. Stephen Graham
    24. Alan Anderson
    25. Devin Brown
    27. Joey Graham
    29. Keith Bogans
    30. Damien Wilkins

    So either the Spurs are going to stick with one of their young guys, Gee or Hairston as the back up SF or they have some secret SF player none of us have thought of

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    Given the remaining players, they are better off staying under the luxury cap and seeing what the young guys can do.

    Some, if not all, of those guys will be available to pick up if things don't work out with Hairston or Gee.

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    I don't mind hating on a Spurs player, but I'm always rooting for him to prove me wrong when gametime rolls around.
    Me too. I hope RJ proves me wrong, but I doubt he'll be much better than the patchy bull he submitted last year.

    When RJ was making 13-15 mil people hated him for making so much...
    Now RJ will be making 8 mil and people still hate for making so much..
    C'mon people, the spurs have next to nothing at SF without RJ. Some of you are dreaming if you really think Hairston and/or Gee will ever become legit NBA players. It is always funner to root for the young up and coming player but yall need a dose of reality. Good organizations do not put on the line the entire season on HOPING that one of these young guys will develop into a solid player, they pay for established pieces and feel in the gaps with these young guys so that if they do not develop (which majority do not) then the season is not a lost cause and if they do develop you have cheap players signed for years to come and have something for the following season to build on. Back to my original reason for posting, why hate the player when we all know the organization (esp. the spurs) runs things to a T and nothing is done by chance. Hate the spurs front office not the players for accepting contracts offered to them and if you cannot get over that then it may be time to root for another team..With that said I am looking forward to another winning season.
    Good organisations also do not commit themselves to immovable contracts for 30yo players who don't fit the team, which is effectively what they've done with RJ. That contract took away any hope we'll improve at SF for at least 2-3 years because they will have to play RJ on that contract, and I can't see any other team trading for it until it is expiring.

    But okay, you do make a decent point, I'll hate on the FO for the contract. I'll still hate on RJ for being such an inconsistent sack of though - that is, unless he proves me wrong, which I really hope he does.

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    If it's Morrison, Nachbar, or T-Mac, I'm gonna be a happy sum .

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    Me too. I hope RJ proves me wrong, but I doubt he'll be much better than the patchy bull he submitted last year.



    Good organisations also do not commit themselves to immovable contracts for 30yo players who don't fit the team, which is effectively what they've done with RJ. That contract took away any hope we'll improve at SF for at least 2-3 years because they will have to play RJ on that contract, and I can't see any other team trading for it until it is expiring.

    But okay, you do make a decent point, I'll hate on the FO for the contract. I'll still hate on RJ for being such an inconsistent sack of though - that is, unless he proves me wrong, which I really hope he does.

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