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    Uh, uh. None of that crapola. It's 5-6.

    Finish it.

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    So, if the Heat go on to win any les--does that same reasoning apply for LeBron, too?
    Yes

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    I'm not being insulting btw, I really want to know what is the point of lying and saying you're Kobe's cousin Medvedenko?
    It's not meant to be funny.

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    Debatable........................those Suns and Jazz teams were pretty damn good.
    Then debate it. The 1996-98 Utah Jazz had one great scorer, one great passer, and a bunch of ok journeyman type players around them.

    Even though the 2009-10 Celtics were older, they still had a lot more balance at both ends of the court and had more weapons.


    Probably the Trail Blazers and the Sonics but the Lakers, Suns and Jazz? Seriously?????
    Yes, better than all of those teams. Lakers were not the same anymore. No more Kareem. Had very little youth on the team outside of Vlade who played significant minutes. With the 2010 Celtics, at least they still had youth and athleticism with Rondo, Perk, Tony Allen, and Davis. The Suns were a great offensive team. They had zero size. In fact they were undersized at every single position. The fact they made it to the NBA Finals is a testament on how good Barkley still was, how much heart KJ had, and how the Western Conference was declining and transitioning past the dominance of the 80s Lakers.

    I think Utah was probably Jordan's best compe ion in the NBA Finals of his 6 les. And I think over the past decade, they'd still be far behind teams like the Lakers, Spurs, and even Mavericks and Suns. They'd be a middle of the pack team in the Western Conference in today's NBA. In the mid to late 90s, they were the best team in the Western Conference.


    then again, 2010 Lakers would have lost to Ewing's knick teams
    And Starks and Kobe would have epic shooting battles....


    Artest, Gasol, Bynum, Odom > any front court Jordan's Bulls ever had
    Agree. Fortunately for Jordan, his Bulls never faced a dominant front court in the NBA Finals.


    Mind you, I'm obviously not arguing Kobe > Jordan. That's a ridiculous contention to make. But Michael dominated a weaker league in the 90s. I do believe that.

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    Mind you, I'm obviously not arguing Kobe > Jordan. That's a ridiculous contention to make. But Michael dominated a weaker league in the 90s. I do believe that.
    with a much weaker team. Once allthings balance out, MJ >>>> Kobe in any era

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    Then debate it. The 1996-98 Utah Jazz had one great scorer, one great passer, and a bunch of ok journeyman type players around them.

    Even though the 2009-10 Celtics were older, they still had a lot more balance at both ends of the court and had more weapons.




    Yes, better than all of those teams. Lakers were not the same anymore. No more Kareem. Had very little youth on the team outside of Vlade who played significant minutes. With the 2010 Celtics, at least they still had youth and athleticism with Rondo, Perk, Tony Allen, and Davis. The Suns were a great offensive team. They had zero size. In fact they were undersized at every single position. The fact they made it to the NBA Finals is a testament on how good Barkley still was, how much heart KJ had, and how the Western Conference was declining and transitioning past the dominance of the 80s Lakers.

    I think Utah was probably Jordan's best compe ion in the NBA Finals of his 6 les. And I think over the past decade, they'd still be far behind teams like the Lakers, Spurs, and even Mavericks and Suns. They'd be a middle of the pack team in the Western Conference in today's NBA. In the mid to late 90s, they were the best team in the Western Conference.




    And Starks and Kobe would have epic shooting battles....




    Agree. Fortunately for Jordan, his Bulls never faced a dominant front court in the NBA Finals.


    Mind you, I'm obviously not arguing Kobe > Jordan. That's a ridiculous contention to make. But Michael dominated a weaker league in the 90s. I do believe that.
    Jammy, you just did my friend.

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    Then debate it. The 1996-98 Utah Jazz had one great scorer, one great passer, and a bunch of ok journeyman type players around them.

    Even though the 2009-10 Celtics were older, they still had a lot more balance at both ends of the court and had more weapons.




    Yes, better than all of those teams. Lakers were not the same anymore. No more Kareem. Had very little youth on the team outside of Vlade who played significant minutes. With the 2010 Celtics, at least they still had youth and athleticism with Rondo, Perk, Tony Allen, and Davis. The Suns were a great offensive team. They had zero size. In fact they were undersized at every single position. The fact they made it to the NBA Finals is a testament on how good Barkley still was, how much heart KJ had, and how the Western Conference was declining and transitioning past the dominance of the 80s Lakers.

    I think Utah was probably Jordan's best compe ion in the NBA Finals of his 6 les. And I think over the past decade, they'd still be far behind teams like the Lakers, Spurs, and even Mavericks and Suns. They'd be a middle of the pack team in the Western Conference in today's NBA. In the mid to late 90s, they were the best team in the Western Conference.




    And Starks and Kobe would have epic shooting battles....




    Agree. Fortunately for Jordan, his Bulls never faced a dominant front court in the NBA Finals.


    Mind you, I'm obviously not arguing Kobe > Jordan. That's a ridiculous contention to make. But Michael dominated a weaker league in the 90s. I do believe that.
    The thing about the teams back then, they were much more of a TEAM, they played very well together. Didnt have to squeak 3 or 4 superstars on a team and try and force them to gell. That Jazz team was very, very good. So was the Suns team. Dont care what ya think.

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    Never once said that those Jazz or Suns teams were not "very, very good."

    I only said that the 2010 Celtics were better. Don't misconstrue what I said.

    And it's fine if you disagree. Everyone has his own opinion.

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    Never once said that those Jazz or Suns teams were not "very, very good."

    I only said that the 2010 Celtics were better. Don't misconstrue what I said.

    And it's fine if you disagree. Everyone has his own opinion.
    I dont think this years Celtics were as good. Pierce didnt play very well in the playoffs, KG showed up maybe one game. Ray Allens shot lights out one game and then disappeared. Only Rajon Rondo really came to play.......well Nate did as well. So how in the were they better than Malone, Stockton, Hornacek, Russell, Shandon Anderson, Antoinee Carr and Howard Eisley???

    That team had a great pt. Awesome PF, Great, great shooters.

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    So, if the Heat go on to win any les--does that same reasoning apply for LeBron, too?

    Wait, firstly, another thread with this comparison...how original.
    LeBrons rings will only count when he will win Finals MVP trophy with them

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    Rajon Rondo / Nate Robinson
    Ray Allen / Tony Allen
    Paul Pierce
    Kevin Garnett / Glen Davis
    Kendrick Perkins / Rasheed Wallace

    versus

    John Stockton / Howard Eisley
    Jeff Hornacek
    Bryon Russell / Shandon Anderson
    Karl Malone / Antoine Carr
    Greg Ostertag / Greg Foster


    Bad match-up for the Jazz's two best players, with Stockton having to match Rondo's athleticism and Karl Malone having to take on KG's size and length. That doesn't even begin to speak on how lopsided the SG/SF positions are in favor of the Celtics. And the depth the Celtics have is in the front court, which has predominantly been a major factor in playoff match-ups, who can win the paint war, the battle on the glass. The Celtics don't only have depth, but they have quality depth. By 1997/1998, Antoine Carr was a 35 year old, 15 minute per game guy. And after Malone, their front court consisted of Greg Ostertag, Greg Foster, and Adam Keefe. Good size, very little athleticism, very little skill other than Foster's ability to shoot three pointers. So, the Jazz's two best players had tough match-ups, the Celtics outclass them at the three other positions, and had the heavy advantage in the paint.

    Where does Utah even have an advantage? Only arguably scoring from the PF position. I'll even give them the coaching edge. But that's about it.

    I'd take the 2010 Celtics over the 1997/1998 Jazz in 5 games, 6 games max.

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    That Karl Malone would eat 2010 KG's lunch.

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    Good thing the Celtics would switch Perkins onto Malone.

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    if the dwayne wade led miami heat ever win a le, dwayne would have 2 les and lebron would still have zero. in 2008 paul pierce won the finals mvp so that mean kg is still ringless. in 2007 parker one finals mvp so tim duncan only has 2 1/2 rings(notice how i gave him only half ring because 1999 half a season= half a ring). o and since michael played in a weak era every ring only counts as a half compare to our generation. thats the rules.

    Quit Hatin'

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    Tbh those Jazz teams are overrated as . John Stockton cared more about racking up assists than winning games, and we all know what kind of 4th quarter performances to expect from Karl Malone. Watching some of the stuff those teams did was hilarious, like the open layups Stockton passed up to fling it back out to Hornacek so he could get an assist.

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    You think Kendrick Perkins will shut down the all time leading scorer in his prime?

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    It's not meant to be funny.
    Can you tell your cousin to call me?

    I put out for him last night, and he hasn't texted me back yet.

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    You think Kendrick Perkins will shut down the all time leading scorer in his prime?
    No, I don't think Kendrick Perkins would shut down Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in his prime.

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    Rather than focus on the teams MJ played in the finals, IMO it's worth mentioning that he didn't get a free trip to the finals every year like Kobe has gotten since 2008. Look at the garbage that limped into the conference finals to get beat by LA recently.

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    like it or not karl malone in his prime is like a carlos boozer in todays generation.


    Quit Hatin'

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    like it or not karl malone in his prime is like a carlos boozer in todays generation.

    Lakerfan demonstrating his vast basketball knowledge

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    like it or not karl malone in his prime is like a carlos boozer in todays generation.


    Quit Hatin'
    I thought we were trying to raise the bar in here?

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    Lakerfan demonstrating his vast basketball knowledge

    he aint no tim duncan and hes not KG. And he wasnt even that skilled. What did he do in 2004?

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    he aint no tim duncan and hes not KG. And he wasnt even that skilled. What did he do in 2004?
    he was 40 years old in 2004, what the do you expect him to do?

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    No, I don't think Kendrick Perkins would shut down Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in his prime.
    Oh , you got me

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