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...and don't forget those two years in D.C..
Kobe still doing work according to e...MJ has a pot Belly...
...and don't forget those two years in D.C..
When was the last thread claiming Kobe > Jordan even made?
I don't know about the last thread, but I know Kobe's cousin is still going around saying Kobe > Jordan whenever he can..
I'm just reppin' my family bro.
he is not as good as Mj can we end this discusion?
another spursfan expressing his thoughts about kobe/mj debate ..this thread is redundant
do you cry when listen to R-kelly's i believe i can fly?...hold your jordan dvd's close at heart..? it's ok man...did u have to finish your homework b4 u could watch it back in the day ?
why is this so promising? .....who gives a dayum...
Fans want championships to their franchises that's all that matters
ask mavs and cavs they can testify!!
lol Lakers fan in Brazil
lol goran dragic fan
Quit Hatin'
huh?...dog I been living in brasil for 7 months I'm from Los Angeles...whats so funny??
u shoulda seen when we beat the suns...fine ass brasilian chicks rockin laker gear awesomeness!!!
That doesn't really surprise me, Latin Americans love the Lakers.
u really don't know your team..one of the only few teams that has a brazilian playing for them...and u think more lakers fans here in brasil?......u see more suns....nuggets...cavs jerseys/fans here due to the brasilian players they have....
think how many spurs jerseys sold in argentina and france....lol think all i asked
Latin Americans are bandwagon fans, they cheer for the team that's doing the best. Every in Phoenix busted out their Kobe jersey after LA won. I really don't give a how bosa made it so Brazilians cheered for the Suns, thanks for letting me know. Tell your country to stop producing mentally soft gots who disappear in the playoffs.
ok ill start with Lebron james....thanks for the advice...Tell your country to stop producing mentally soft gots who disappear in the playoffs.
told u i was from L.A....ill repeat think is all i asked....lol
You live in Canada, and judging by your picture you drink cosmos when not at Starbucks writing poetry. Just because someone who met Kobe once banged your sister, that doesn't make kobe your cousin.
Is there even anyone on this site that thinks Kobe = MJ?
You might as well start a "why Duncan > Malone" thread.
1) Probably, but they're re ed for thinking that
2) Easy, Duncan didn't turn into a huge pussy in the playoffs.
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No.
Never.
I'm just amazed that there are people who deny that Karl Malone was anything but a fantastic basketball player. Even at 40 years old, he was playing great for the Lakers. I've posted before the splits of how awesome the Lakers were with him in the lineup (winning about 80% of their games) vs. when he was injured. No way to know if LA would've had enough to overcome the Pistons in the Finals the way Detroit was playing, but in hindsight it's clear to see that when Malone re-injured his knee in Game 6 of the WCFs against Minny, the Lakers were pretty much done from that point on.
The guy was the clear-cut best PF of all time until Duncan came along and wrested that le from him. Dude was a machine.
My respect for Malone grew after he played for LA too. His basketball IQ was off the charts, probably one of the smartest players i've ever seen in my life. That was his biggest contribution to the team.
Karl Malone was a great, great player. I think people do fall into the trap of thinking the most recent is always the best. That's why some crazy people want to compare Kobe to Jordan or LeBron to Magic/Michael or Dirk to Bird and the like. Perhaps people want to believe they are witnessing the greatest players right now.
However, with Karl Malone, I do think there is some merit to questioning his dominance from an "era" perspective. Karl Malone was generously listed at 6'9 and was around 260. In the 80s and the early 90s, that was plenty big for a power forward. But the power forward position has evolved over the last 20 years. Many if not most power forwards are now closer to 7 feet tall and are not only more slender but much more athletic. The elite power forwards are freak athletes. If you put Karl Malone in today's NBA, he'd still be a great player but he wouldn't be an elite level athlete for his position and he'd on the average to below average size height-wise.
Plus, you see how people over the years have criticized Amare for not being a great back-to-the-basket post player. Karl Malone feasted on offense in a similar manner. He could post up, but his bread and butter was the pick-and-roll with Stockton and later in his career the midrange free throw jump shot. Sounds an awful lot like Amare's game and he's criticized for not having a very versatile low post game. And Karl Malone had the strength but not the freakish athleticism Amare has. I'd say Karl would be better than Carlos Boozer, but I don't think it's a stretch to compare the two. Both strong wide bodied power forwards who are/were undersized by their height, who struggle against length, but who have earned their paychecks by the pick-and-roll and midrange jump shot.
Part of the greatness of Karl Malone was his durability and longevity. He kept his body in great shape. And it afforded him one of the truly longer NBA careers, but also allowed himself to play at a very high level for longer. If he played in the 2000s against the likes of Duncan, KG, and even a notch below talent at PF with the likes of Dirk and Webber and Gasol and now Bosh, where would he have been viewed among power forwards?
I don't think that's really the main thing that's been pointed about Amare. It's his poor defense and rebounding for his size that have been always points against him. Malone is a great defender and rebounder for his size.
Fair enough, but Karl Malone wasn't exactly a defensive juggernaut. A good defender in his era of basketball. I wouldn't go so far as saying he was a great defender as you suggest. I will say this about Karl Malone's defense, he wasn't afraid to foul hard. I think that in itself helped him defensively, at least from a psychological perspective. Players would be very wary of his elbows when attacking Karl Malone.
But, defense and rebounding isn't why Karl Malone was considered the greatest power forward before Duncan got deeper into his career. It was his scoring. I'm just suggesting how his offensive ability was aided in a similar way that Amare's has been yet also criticized. It's true Amare gets criticized much more for his defense and lack of consistent rebounding, but he also gets bashed for what is perceived as not having a back-to-the-basket low post game.
I do think Karl Malone's legend is greatly tied into his durability and longevity.
Again, allow for Karl Malone's career to overlap more alongside the late 1990s to currently, while other great power forwards like Duncan, KG, Dirk, Gasol, C-Webb, and Bosh had the prime of their careers, and I don't think he'd be mentioned as one of the greatest players of all time, but for the longevity of his career and his ability to put up very good stats deep into his career. But then again, I don't think he'd have two NBA Finals appearances or either league MVP.
JameStone with another quality take. However, I think the size of Duncan and Dirk may have been a bit much to handle for the Mailman. And I wouldn't exactly call him clutch either. I do think he would be difficult to stop on the offensive end though. Interesting take nonetheless.
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