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    Honestly, do you think most teams in the NBA would rather have Bosh or Amare on their team? Seriously.
    what happened to better stats or more injury prone?

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    i expected more lols from this thread.

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    Honestly, do you think most teams in the NBA would rather have Bosh or Amare on their team? Seriously.
    Teams would take Bosh because of Amare's microfracture surgery and eye surgery, but if teams knew they both would stay healthy for the next 5 years, I bet more teams would take Amare.

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    what happened to better stats or more injury prone?
    Nothing. Bosh put up better stats than Amare this past season. Amare was in a contract year, Bosh had nothing to play for. Yes, the Suns are much deeper than the Raptors, but I'd rather take a vagina as my 3rd option than be stuck with an injury prone egomaniac as my #1 option for $100M. Amare got his contract and now he'll join Dumbtoni in obscurity.

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    Amare was in a contract year, Bosh had nothing to play for.
    Bosh wasn't in a contract year too?

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    Teams would take Bosh because of Amare's microfracture surgery and eye surgery, but if teams knew they both would stay healthy for the next 5 years, I bet more teams would take Amare.
    Wrong. And Amare being healthy for even 1 year, let alone 5 is highly doubtful. Bosh is much more durable.

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    Bosh had a career year last year it's pretty in re ed to only count his stats from last year when they're better than any of his other years, but it's what to expect from the fanbase that thinks a career season in 2009 made Parker a top 3 point guard.

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    Or maybe his finals MVP in 2007.

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    Bosh wasn't in a contract year too?
    Bosh already knew he was going to sign with Miami since 2008. Maybe you didn't read the first page of the thread when I mentioned that. Hence, why Bosh had nothing to play for. Him and Wade had to make the rounds with other teams to make them signing/resigning with Miami look more legit, but it was all a farce. Amare had no idea where he was going until the LBJ contract was signed. NYK didn't put anything official on the table for him until Lebron decided to go with Miami.

    Bosh would never ever have bailed on the Raptors had he needed to play for a large contract, you kidding me? He might be a pussy , but he's not that much of a re . He obviously knew how much $ he was going to get and had already jumped ship from the Raptors much like Lebron in the 2nd round against Boston.

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    So it's just coincidence Bosh had his best statistical season the year his contract expires?

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    wtf ? I'd prefer Bosh in my team vs. Amare no question.

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    Bosh had a career year last year it's pretty in re ed to only count his stats from last year when they're better than any of his other years, but it's what to expect from the fanbase that thinks a career season in 2009 made Parker a top 3 point guard.
    Your argument was Amare >> Bosh. But that isn't the case. I'm not talking about how good Amare was in 2002 or 2006. I'm talking about right now. Amare has been through and back with his injuries and surgeries. He missed an entire season (and clearly wasn't missed) for God's sake. I'm talking about RIGHT NOW.

    Right NOW more teams would take Dwight Howard over Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan may have had the better career, but as of RIGHT NOW, you're gonna with longetivity and durability.

    So yeah, Bosh > Amare. Definitely.


    And for the record, Parker was pretty damn good in 2009, but that's irrelevant now.

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    Bosh already knew he was going to sign with Miami since 2008. Maybe you didn't read the first page of the thread when I mentioned that. Hence, why Bosh had nothing to play for. Him and Wade had to make the rounds with other teams to make them signing/resigning with Miami look more legit, but it was all a farce. Amare had no idea where he was going until the LBJ contract was signed. NYK didn't put anything official on the table for him until Lebron decided to go with Miami.

    Bosh would never ever have bailed on the Raptors had he needed to play for a large contract, you kidding me? He might be a pussy , but he's not that much of a re . He obviously knew how much $ he was going to get and had already jumped ship from the Raptors much like Lebron in the 2nd round against Boston.
    So you're basically comparing Amare to someone who quits on his team and only plays hard when he has a reason to. OK.

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    I think nearly every team in the NBA would rather have Bosh than Amare. No question.

    And truth is, I'm not even that crazy about either player.
    This.

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    Your argument was Amare >> Bosh. But that isn't the case. I'm not talking about how good Amare was in 2002 or 2006.
    Amare wasn't in the league in 2002 and he missed the entire 2006 season, so idk what that's supposed to mean.

    I'm talking about right now. Amare has been through and back with his injuries and surgeries. He missed an entire season (and clearly wasn't missed) for God's sake. I'm talking about RIGHT NOW.
    You're talking about right now, yet bringing up the 2006 season Amare missed when right above you just said you're not talking about how good Amare was in 2006? You Canadians have weird logic.

    Right NOW more teams would take Dwight Howard over Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan may have had the better career, but as of RIGHT NOW, you're gonna with longetivity and durability.

    So yeah, Bosh > Amare. Definitely.
    Last season Amare was 2nd all NBA and Bosh didn't make any team. While you think Bosh is better, the voters seem to disagree.


    And for the record, Parker was pretty damn good in 2009, but that's irrelevant now.
    And Bosh's 2010 season will be irrelevant once he's exposed in Miami.

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    So you're basically comparing Amare to someone who quits on his team and only plays hard when he has a reason to. OK.
    You act like Amare is the ultimate team player. He's been ing about his contract for ages, had issues with his coach (D'Antoni), and has been labeled as incredibly lazy for most of his career. Amare is ME first, team second guy. I'm not saying Bosh is an ultimate team player either. But you make it sound like Amare is a Mother Teressa.

    Once again, if NYK told Amare last year (albeit, illegally) that they were gonna offer him $100M you think Amare would give a about the Suns? No way. He'd have bailed ship as well. No question about it. Most players would.

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    You act like Amare is the ultimate team player. He's been ing about his contract for ages, had issues with his coach (D'Antoni), and has been labeled as incredibly lazy for most of his career. Amare is ME first, team second guy. I'm not saying Bosh is an ultimate team player either. But you make it sound like Amare is a Mother Teressa.

    Once again, if NYK told Amare last year (albeit, illegally) that they were gonna offer him $100M you think Amare would give a about the Suns? No way. He'd have bailed ship as well. No question about it. Most players would.
    Given how much Amare wanted to stay with the Suns I'd say Amare would have given a about the Suns regardless. He did everything he could to stay with the Suns but ultimately couldn't leave $40 million guaranteed on the table.

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    Last season Amare was 2nd all NBA and Bosh didn't make any team. While you think Bosh is better, the voters seem to disagree.
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    And Bosh was on the olympic team in 2008, so what's your point?

    The thing is, as of right now, more teams would pick Bosh over Amare. That's all there is to it. If they really wanted to, I'm sure Wade could've asked Amare to come along instead. Or , Lebron could have made a stronger push for Amare to come to Cleveland last year, though I'm sure Kerr wasn't crazy to let him go.

    Though in hindsight, both the Raptors and Suns should've traded their respective PF's this past trading deadline.

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    Given how much Amare wanted to stay with the Suns I'd say Amare would have given a about the Suns regardless. He did everything he could to stay with the Suns but ultimately couldn't leave $40 million guaranteed on the table.
    Uh no, if he wanted to stay with the Suns that badly he would've signed the extension. Countless times there were contract disputes with Amare. He wanted a max extension. Amare was only about one thing and that was the money. Bosh was only about one thing, and that was attention. Toronto could've offered Bosh a whopping $30M more to stay, but he left anyway. Amare was gonna jump ship regardless, and probably did the right thing since Sarver cutting ties with Kerr has put the team in a bit of a tight spot.

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    And Bosh was on the olympic team in 2008, so what's your point?

    The thing is, as of right now, more teams would pick Bosh over Amare. That's all there is to it. If they really wanted to, I'm sure Wade could've asked Amare to come along instead. Or , Lebron could have made a stronger push for Amare to come to Cleveland last year, though I'm sure Kerr wasn't crazy to let him go.

    Though in hindsight, both the Raptors and Suns should've traded their respective PF's this past trading deadline.
    What does the olympics have to do with anything? If you're talking about right now, then I'd say the all NBA honors from last year are pretty relevant.

    You sure are clinging onto something you have no way of proving. It's funny how you didn't respond to the part about how you aren't talking about 2006 Amare yet you were harping on the fact he missed an entire season.

    And the Heat met with Amare before they met with Bosh, that didn't go anywhere because they didn't want to give Amare a 5 year deal because of his knee. If not for his knee, he woulda had just as much of a chance to go to the Heat as Bosh did.

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    Uh no, if he wanted to stay with the Suns that badly he would've signed the extension. Countless times there were contract disputes with Amare. He wanted a max extension. Amare was only about one thing and that was the money. Bosh was only about one thing, and that was attention. Toronto could've offered Bosh a whopping $30M more to stay, but he left anyway. Amare was gonna jump ship regardless, and probably did the right thing since Sarver cutting ties with Kerr has put the team in a bit of a tight spot.
    what extension? They never offered him the extension he wanted. After NY offered him the contract he signed, he went to the Suns and gave them an opportunity to match it. He waited as long as he could to opt out in hopes of agreeing to a new deal with Phoenix, but ultimately he had to take $100 million guaranteed over $60 million guaranteed.

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    amuseddaysleeper: every team would take bosh over amare

    link please

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    Amare was gonna jump ship regardless
    Does going back to the Suns and giving them the opportunity to match the contract NY offered sound like someone who was gonna jump ship regardless?

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    And Bosh was on the olympic team in 2008, so what's your point?

    The thing is, as of right now, more teams would pick Bosh over Amare. That's all there is to it. If they really wanted to, I'm sure Wade could've asked Amare to come along instead. Or , Lebron could have made a stronger push for Amare to come to Cleveland last year, though I'm sure Kerr wasn't crazy to let him go.

    Though in hindsight, both the Raptors and Suns should've traded their respective PF's this past trading deadline.
    What does the olympics have to do with anything? If you're talking about right now, then I'd say the all NBA honors from last year are pretty relevant.

    You sure are clinging onto something you have no way of proving. It's funny how you didn't respond to the part about how you aren't talking about 2006 Amare yet you were harping on the fact he missed an entire season.

    And the Heat met with Amare before they met with Bosh, that didn't go anywhere because they didn't want to give Amare a 5 year deal because of his knee. If not for his knee, he woulda had just as much of a chance to go to the Heat as Bosh did.[/QUOTE]

    The Heat weren't gonna offer Amare an official contract because they already knew they were getting Lebron and Bosh. Amare just wanted to explore all of his options and being completely unaware of what Miami was really doing probably wanted to see what they could offer. I only brought up Amare in 2006 because you were pointing out his numbers from his 2nd year in the league without Nash. I'm talking about right now, hence why I brought up the Tim Duncan/Dwight Howard analogy. You can definitely argue that Amare has had a better overall career since he's played with Steve Nash and been on a much better team than Bosh. But if you put Bosh on those Suns teams they'd be even better. You put Amare on the Raptors, and he'd have 7 straight years of nothing but the lottery.

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