Can we start a bipartisan effort here?

[Winehole23]

To be fair, Democrats didn't just ride Republican dissatisfaction. They did campaign on certain values and ideas. It's just that they went back against those ideas, or were too afraid to enact them, once they got into office.

Distinction w/o a difference. Republicans have been promising to shrink government almost as long as I've been alive. None of them have done it.

[LnGrrrR]

Distinction w/o a difference. Republicans have been promising to shrink government almost as long as I've been alive. None of them have done it.

Fair enough, I suppose.

[Winehole23]

Okay, how 'bout "citizen-initiated"?

Winner winner, chicken dinner, with this proviso: it would be a tragedy if we emulated California's system.

[Winehole23]

Fair enough, I suppose.

If the promised change evanesces upon election what good is it except to get elected?

Obama's dull, unmoving acceptance speech in retrospect foreshadowed the disillusionment his administration would sow even in his own retinue.

[Winehole23]

Obama knew he was gonna let everybody down. From the very beginning. The riddle of his presidency is whether he can ever overcome it.

O magic 8-ball, what say you?

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[boutons_deux]

Amusing how people still think DC calls the shots, and that citizens' votes and elections mean anything will change for the better.

Both are total myths.

DC is nothing but a hired proxy for corps and capitalists.

America is ed, and un able, while Americans refuse to condemn, indict, or restrict the ers, dreaming that one day they will be one of the ing class.

Anybody notice how Wall St is back to pre-crisis obscene profits, how corps are reporting (huge) profits, buying back their stocks (driving up the price), and sitting on $2T in cash? While 20% of US is unemployed or underemployed, longer and longer?

While the bull wars and fraudulent, corrupt bloated defense spending continue to transfer taxpayers dollars to the MIC, en bering taxpayers with $Ts in debt obligations?

America is ed, and un able.

[Winehole23]

Amusing how people still think DC calls the shots, and that citizens' votes and elections mean anything will change for the better.

Uh huh. Who said so? Are you contesting the fact that Obama abused and continues to abuse the hope he solicited during his campaign?

DC is nothing but a hired proxy for corps and capitalists.

Were you talking to someone else?

Don't you know who the I am?

America is ed, and un able, while Americans refuse to condemn, indict, or restrict the ers, dreaming that one day they will be one of the ing class.

Be the motherf****r you want to be. Beautiful, man.

Anybody notice how Wall St is back to pre-crisis obscene profits, how corps are reporting (huge) profits, buying back their stocks (driving up the price), and sitting on $2T in cash? While 20% of US is unemployed or underemployed, longer and longer?

I heard that too. Do you have a point?

While the bull wars and fraudulent, corrupt bloated defense spending continue to transfer taxpayers dollars to the MIC, en bering taxpayers with $Ts in debt obligations?

Obvious. And?

America is ed, and un able.

If you have a really good line maybe you shouldn't use it too often. People could take it for a tic.

[spursncowboys]

Got any specifics of how we will be safer in the future?

I am speaking militarily. Our advancements on tactics and equipment. But def. all the foreign terrorists who we took out on Iraq. Do you think we are less safe or the same than if we did not invade the country controlled by the brutal dictator saddam hussein?

What premise for OIF was true?

That Saddam had violated over 12 un resolutions and he was still not allowing un weapons inspectors to come and check. he was funding terrorists and allowing them to train inside Iraq as long as they pledged to target americans or israel.

[boutons_deux]

"he was still not allowing un weapons inspectors to come and check"

total bull . the inspectors were running around Iraq and dubya pulled them out in Feb so he could invade a couple weeks later.

[Wild Cobra]

"he was still not allowing un weapons inspectors to come and check"

total bull . the inspectors were running around Iraq and dubya pulled them out in Feb so he could invade a couple weeks later.

You are both correct.

The UN inspectors were not allowed to inspect, until after there was time to move any contraband.

[boutons_deux]

"move any contraband"

strictly evidence-free, faith-based bull to justify neo-con crimes.

neo-con's Iraq invasion for was oil and to enrich the MIC.

DUBYA LIED