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    since butler is now gone, i would just give the young wings some burn. at least one of them must be a legit nba player. tmac would be nice but i doubt he'll come to the spurs.

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    No .

    Butler signed for 1 year.

    We could have had him for 7.5/3 yrs, saved 32mil, and had a player who both fits our team better and who we could cast off at any time in favour of a younger guy (like through the draft or whatever the exception will be).

    You'll have to shatter that record now.

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    With Hairston gone, it looks like all the Spurs have backing up the SF position are Gee and Anderson. Not signing a vet would be pretty foolish now.

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    At the very least the Spurs should work out TMac to see what is there. Re-signing RJ to "keep the window open" becomes even more pointless if they have zero quality depth behind him.

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    Any chance we do a S&T of RMJ with Chicago for James Johnson?

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    Any chance we do a S&T of RMJ with Chicago for James Johnson?
    Interesting thought. I doubt Chicago does this unless we include a pick or some cash, because they could just sign RMJ outright.

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    RMJ + CHAs 2016 2nd round and a 2011 2nd for James Johnson

    then sign Stephen Graham for the min

    Waive Jerrells

    Keep the best two of the following three at deadline: Gee, Graham, Johnson, in order to avoid lux tax

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    missing out on players like Barnes and Butler are even worse now. The Spurs better have some "secret" plan for the back up SF spot. They must have known Hairston was going to sign with this team (probably the reason he didn't play in summer league). TMAC, Alan Anderson, and Nachbar are they only reasonable SF available.

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    Joey Graham to the Cavs!

    Joey Graham agrees to a two-year deal with Cavaliers with terms undisclosed, his agent Byron Irvin tells Yahoo! Sports.
    http://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo/statuses/19916276427

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    Spurs need to keep an eye on Cartier Martin. A young small forward that can dribble,shoot and play solid defense. He has bounced around a bit, so there are some flaws but he maybe able to till a need. Right now he was invited to the Wizards training camp but with the signing of Josh Howard, he will be a long shot. Plus, he is cheap.

    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Cartier-Martin-381/

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    Stephen Graham would be a nice pickup too
    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Stephen-Graham-443/


    I am still hoping to fill the end of the bench with a defensive player with a bit of size and enough offensive game to keep opposing defense honest.

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    Hairston to Europe was quite a surprise - I figured him for the backup SF spot.

    If we could grab James Johnson for not much I'd be all over that - he'd give us a big, mobile SF/PF tweener for guarding big SFs and mobile PFs, something we lack. He's also good on the boards and likes to block shots.

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    Hairston to Europe was quite a surprise - I figured him for the backup SF spot.

    If we could grab James Johnson for not much I'd be all over that - he'd give us a big, mobile SF/PF tweener for guarding big SFs and mobile PFs, something we lack. He's also good on the boards and likes to block shots.
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    Hairston to Europe was quite a surprise - I figured him for the backup SF spot.

    If we could grab James Johnson for not much I'd be all over that - he'd give us a big, mobile SF/PF tweener for guarding big SFs and mobile PFs, something we lack. He's also good on the boards and likes to block shots.
    Yeah I would like to get him as well for the backup spot, I was wondering couldn't we just S&T Mason for him? Since Chicago was looking at Mason I believe.

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    I'd be all for James Johnson coming here.

    Sign and trade Mason + one of Bonner's sandwiches for Johnson.

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    Johnson would be a good pickup.

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    Do you reckon we might look at Marcus Williams?
    We know him well - opinions? How did he do in the Summer League?

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    Both of the Grahams are trash. Seriously, we dont need them

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    Yeah I would like to get him as well for the backup spot, I was wondering couldn't we just S&T Mason for him? Since Chicago was looking at Mason I believe.
    I don't know why Roger Mason would do the Spurs any favors, but It sure would be cool if he did. The Bulls were looking at Keith Bogans as well.

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    If the Spurs are looking to go cheap and stay out of the tax, Qyntel Woods or the other Pietrus might be interesting on an unguaranteed deal/camp invite. There are problems with both, of course...as Pietrus has zero offensive ability to speak of and Woods has quite the history of a troublemaker.

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    I've got a realistic trade that could fill the backup SF spot and potentially the stopper role: Gee and a 2nd round pick for Young.

    With Gay, Mayo, Henry and Allen, Young is expendable. Allen in particular makes him expendable, because he's of the same ilk and will be taking on Young's role.

    Plus, Hollins supposedly wants another PG (Conley is their only true PG; Mayo/Vasquez are set to handle the backup duties), but Heisley is supposedly too cheap to okay that. They could waive Gee, who's contract is not guaranteed, then take the open roster spot/savings from that to sign a backup PG.

    For the Spurs, this would put them at least two deep at every position, give them another true SF and a potential answer to the stopper role. It would also allow them to continue to get younger and more athletic (granted, Gee is younger and more athletic than Young, but whereas I doubt Gee will be in the rotation, Young more than likely would be), while barely increasing payroll.

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    Young and Blair...together again.

    I'd trade Gee and a pick for Sam Young in a heartbeat.

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    I've got a realistic trade that could fill the backup SF spot and potentially the stopper role: Gee and a 2nd round pick for Young.

    With Gay, Mayo, Henry and Allen, Young is expendable. Allen in particular makes him expendable, because he's of the same ilk and will be taking on Young's role.

    Plus, Hollins supposedly wants another PG (Conley is their only true PG; Mayo/Vasquez are set to handle the backup duties), but Heisley is supposedly too cheap to okay that. They could waive Gee, who's contract is not guaranteed, then take the open roster spot/savings from that to sign a backup PG.

    For the Spurs, this would put them at least two deep at every position, give them another true SF and a potential answer to the stopper role. It would also allow them to continue to get younger and more athletic (granted, Gee is younger and more athletic than Young, but whereas I doubt Gee will be in the rotation, Young more than likely would be), while barely increasing payroll.
    I like the idea of Sam Young, but your trade scenario makes little sense in that they wouldn't want Gee, they'd want Temple. I think the franchise has to determine what they are going to do with Parker before they let Temple go, because he looks to be a backup PG at the very least, and has that rare mix of size, speed and shooting at the PG. If they'd take Gee, I'd do it, but until the Parker situation shakes out I wouldn't move Temple.

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    I like Temple too...but it would be foolish to say no to Sam Young, especially with the SF situation the Spurs are facing.

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    I like Temple too...but it would be foolish to say no to Sam Young, especially with the SF situation the Spurs are facing.
    So then Parker walks away and we have to totally rebuild at the PG?

    I know what you're saying, but since they let Malik go I think the FO must have something up their sleeve for backup SF as it is not in their nature not to have a plan B.

    Pay Parker, then trade Temple for Young I guess. I have to say though that I really liked what Temple showed late last season. I think he might end up a starter, or at the very least a good backup, and he creates all kinds of mismatches with his height. I really hate to give up on the guy.

    James Johnson or Sam Young would be excellent trades/S&Ts to pull off at this point.

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