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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    How am I overhyping? By saying I believe that Neal can be a better player than Hairston? Okay I might be wrong but that's what I think. Stop acting like there are right and wrong answers in this because there arent.
    The right answer is that Neal wasn't a guaranteed first round pick before his legal troubles, which were all behind him on draft day. When you make up a lie like that it's called "overhyping".

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    lol @ seriously

    I have no problem with differing opinions. However, when you're into spewing bull , be prepared to be called out for it. You don't have to like it either.
    It happens all the time in here.
    what bull ?

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    How am I overhyping? By saying I believe that Neal can be a better player than Hairston? Okay I might be wrong but that's what I think. Stop acting like there are right and wrong answers in this because there arent.
    Neal 1st round prospect. Really? Over-hype much?

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    LOL @ Neal having yet to take an NBA 3. Well I hope the FO made the right cal here.

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    The right answer is that Neal wasn't a guaranteed first round pick before his legal troubles, which were all behind him on draft day. When you make up a lie like that it's called "overhyping".
    What I meant was he was considered a first round draft pick until he had to switch to a smaller school which ultimately hurt his draft stock and people questioned his character after the whole ordeal which also hurt his draft stock. I have read this many places.

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    Do we even know it came down to Neal/Hairston. IMO it seems the FO knew Hairston was on his way out way before Neal came into his own in summer league.

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    I gotta go to class. You assholes kept me from studying for my test this morning. Be back in a couple hours.

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    And for people wondering, there is no way Hairston is going to Italy because he picked it over playing for Spurs. He will play at a worse level and will ahve a lower salary.

    Spurs likely told him that he had great chances of being cut at the end of the training camp and that they would release him if he finds a good team in Europe.
    Hairston has 2 seasons and 500 minutes of NBA experience.

    That has to count for something, right?

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    You have a link that shows him projected to go undrafted?
    Sure. Here you go.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Neal
    Neal was eligible in the 2007 NBA Draft in June and was projected to be on the bubble to get drafted. Neal went undrafted.
    Do you have a link that shows him as a guaranteed first round pick? Again, since his trial was over before the draft, I'm guessing that such a link doesn't exist. His draft position was set all along. If he'd actually had first round talent, I'm unsure how he ended up in Turkey.

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    I gotta go to class. You assholes kept me from studying for my test this morning. Be back in a couple hours.
    Who's taking this forum seriously now?

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    Hairston has 2 seasons and 500 minutes of NBA experience.

    That has to count for something, right?
    I don't get what you want to say.

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    Good to see him get an opportunity overseas. Honestly, I don't think he was near ready enough to play an important role on the Spurs, or any other NBA team. Spurs will now have to hill the backup SF spot. It will be interesting to see what they do.

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    And for people wondering, there is no way Hairston is going to Italy because he picked it over playing for Spurs. He will play at a worse level and will ahve a lower salary.

    Spurs likely told him that he had great chances of being cut at the end of the training camp and that they would release him if he finds a good team in Europe.
    Agreed. The Spurs have done this before.

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    I don't get what you want to say.
    Somebody here was saying Hairston had more NBA experience than Neil. To the tune of 2 seasons and 500 minutes under his belt.

    Being that Neil was somewhat of an above average/great player in Europe, and that Hairston has more NBA experience, you don't think he deserves a pretty good contract in Europe? At least more than the NBA min?

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    Finally this scrub is out of here!!! Tire of people saying he is good enough to play in the NBA..

    Good luck to him!!!

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    Who's taking this forum seriously now?

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    Defense is still Pop's focal point and it's always been that way..
    I'm not sure what Spurs team you've been watching the past couple of years. It may have been that way in the Duncan/Bowen prime years and maybe even up thru 2007, but it aint that way now.

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    Hairston looked lost and nearly useless on the court, there really wasn't anything he showed he could do in his limited minutes other than dunk so him being cut means little to me, much like Ian. Both of these guys were seriously outplayed by rookies whether it was Blair or Temple (yea Temple's a guard but his defense looked better as did his shooting compared to Malik's game). And again like Ian, Malik suffered an injury or two as well which just isn't good for a fringe prospect type of player especially if you're already hardly playing. IIRC, people even called out Malik being traded or cut when it was announced that the Spurs staff saw enough of Hairston or something like that and thats why he didn't go to SL

    Spurs really need some depth at the 3 though unless they plan on using Anderson as the primary SF backup which doesn't seem like their style.

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    Somebody here was saying Hairston had more NBA experience than Neil. To the tune of 2 seasons and 500 minutes under his belt.

    Being that Neil was somewhat of an above average/great player in Europe, and that Hairston has more NBA experience, you don't think he deserves a pretty good contract in Europe? At least more than the NBA min?
    Neal was a proven player in Europe that's why he got big contracts there. Hairston is an Euro rookie and some NBA minutes won't significantly raise his value. The Euro market is also hurt by the economical crisis.

    IMO, Hairston contract in Europe should be around $300K per year.

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    Hairston doesn't go play in Italy if he truly was the type of player than some of you wish he was. You see a hole in the roster and you desparately want it filled, but wishing it so and making it so are not the same things.
    Is that stage 3 of this year TdF in ur avarta?

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    Hmm... I wonder what spurstilltheend has to say about this

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    Neal was a proven player in Europe that's why he got big contracts there. Hairston is an Euro rookie and some NBA minutes won't significantly raise his value. The Euro market is also hurt by the economical crisis.

    IMO, Hairston contract in Europe should be around $300K per year.
    Thanks.

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    Hairston was just not good enough. I had been saying for a while that we would not make the team this year while others thought he might start at the SF. I find his departure refreshing as it is another step away from small ball. Using SG size players at SF is part of the problem.

    I do not think they will ride Gee and Anderson at the backup SF and feel that something may be in the works maybe for Nachbar. Gee as others have indicated has D-league eligibility and that is where he will play.

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    So did Anderson just become back up SF, or will Gee get the minutes?

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    Well, it looks like all of you who wanted an established, true SF, are about to get your wish. Unfortunately, there's slim pickings available in free agency, which means...

    The return of the Centerpiece. Sure, he's not a true SF and he's not athletic, but he'll come cheap and he has a year in the system. Don't get me wrong, I don't want him back despite this news, but I'd say he's probably the odds on favorite to fill this role.

    Hayes, Hassell and George are other options. Can't see the Spurs signing the latter two, so if it's not Bogans, Hayes is probably the guy. I'd have preferred Hairston over all of these options.

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