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    I believe the new proper progressive terminology for what happened is that it was a "teachable moment".
    But he didn't explain his original statement at all -- he simply said something else.

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    Next cover of Time magazine.


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    Next cover of Time magazine.
    Why did you post that?

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    Did she go to Michael Jacksons plastic surgeon?

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    In Africa, girls get their clits sliced off, their vaginas sewn shut, their s ironed flat so they look less attractive, so they won't get raped.

    Why aren't we invading Africa to stop that?

    I'm sure the MIC pays Time $Ms/year in advertising. Gotta keep sucking down those taxdollars into the MIC maw.

    why doesn't Time run a cover(s) with kids maimed by US soldiers?


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    All I have to say on this is that Muhammad was either the Anti-Christ or THE false prophet.

    I'm not sure which.

    He united the Muslims under Allah through the false pretense of 'submission to God' instead of 'servitude to God' and through war, and the threat of war and by marrying the daughters of those that opposed him.

    He either received his messages from the Beast, or the servants of the Beast, OR, he twisted the message to suit his own selfish desires.

    It is because of Muhammad that the Islamic religion is one of war for unity under Allah, instead of peace for unity under God.

    Here is his seal...I see that a pentagram can be made within this as well. I also see a black snake. Surely not the signs of our One True and Loving God.


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    Is there anything you can't make a pentagram out of?

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    All I have to say on this is that Muhammad was either the Anti-Christ or THE false prophet.

    I'm not sure which.

    He united the Muslims under Allah through the false pretense of 'submission to God' instead of 'servitude to God' and through war, and the threat of war and by marrying the daughters of those that opposed him.

    He either received his messages from the Beast, or the servants of the Beast, OR, he twisted the message to suit his own selfish desires.

    It is because of Muhammad that the Islamic religion is one of war for unity under Allah, instead of peace for unity under God.

    Here is his seal...I see that a pentagram can be made within this as well. I also see a black snake. Surely not the signs of our One True and Loving God.

    Yup, because Christians have made sure never to war under God's name.

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    Yup, because Christians have made sure never to war under God's name.
    Of course not.

    Moses was peaceful, too.

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    Yup, because Christians have made sure never to war under God's name.

    I tell you this, True Christians have never sought out war in God's name, other than to liberate from tyranny...in which case, they are not seeking out war, they are seeking out peace and freedom of the people.

    For those that seek out war in God's name are serving the wrong god.

    I believe the True Islam is to unite under Allah through any means necessary.

    While True Christianity is to unite under God through peace, faith, and love.

    If I am wrong about Islam, then please educate me. I only have a cursory understanding of it and its roots.

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    I tell you this, True Christians have never sought out war in God's name, other than to liberate from tyranny...in which case, they are not seeking out war, they are seeking out peace and freedom of the people.

    For those that seek out war in God's name are serving the wrong god.

    I believe the True Islam is to unite under Allah through any means necessary.

    While True Christianity is to unite under God through peace, faith, and love.

    If I am wrong about Islam, then please educate me. I only have a cursory understanding of it and its roots.

    Good God Zak. You are gonna get struck by lightning typing like that. You need to brush up on your history. Does 'The Crusades" ring a bell with you?

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    But if non-Christians called all of Christianity a "cult", illegitimate religion, because of fringe freaks like LDS/Mormon weirdos, or Phelps weirdos, or Creationists, or Bible iteralists, or End Timers, the Christians would be in an "uproar". Hypocrites.
    Haven't agreed with boutons in ages, but...this. Xtians are SO ready to jettison their weirdos, but insist on painting all of Islam with one broad brush.

    Regarding that idiot preacher that is going to burn the Koran on 9/11, do you think that only oddball extreme Xtians would be offended if some Muslims got together and burned the bible?

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    Originally Posted by bigzak25 View Post

    I tell you this, True Christians have never sought out war in God's name, other than to liberate from tyranny...in which case, they are not seeking out war, they are seeking out peace and freedom of the people.

    For those that seek out war in God's name are serving the wrong god.

    I believe the True Islam is to unite under Allah through any means necessary.

    While True Christianity is to unite under God through peace, faith, and love.

    If I am wrong about Islam, then please educate me. I only have a cursory understanding of it and its roots.
    Good God Zak. You are gonna get struck by lightning typing like that. You need to brush up on your history. Does 'The Crusades" ring a bell with you?
    I am aware of the Crusades, but I'm sure I can learn more.

    I stand by what I said, as those were not True Christians and they were in fact, serving the wrong god if they were trying to get others to convert to Christianity by the use of force. The Crusades imo, which is admittedly a bit ignorant at this point, as I have not read up on the subject, but imo, the Crusades were more about serving man's Ego than they were about bringing others to Christianity.

    If you are killing in the name of God, then you are serving the wrong god.

    That is not to say that I don't believe that those that wish to destroy should be destroyed. I think that all that kill in the name of God are lost.

    If they only realized their True Guide...Jesus, then the world would be a different place.

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    I am aware of the Crusades, but I'm sure I can learn more.

    I stand by what I said, as those were not True Christians and they were in fact, serving the wrong god if they were trying to get others to convert to Christianity by the use of force. The Crusades imo, which is admittedly a bit ignorant at this point, as I have not read up on the subject, but imo, the Crusades were more about serving man's Ego than they were about bringing others to Christianity.

    If you are killing in the name of God, then you are serving the wrong god.

    That is not to say that I don't believe that those that wish to destroy should be destroyed. I think that all that kill in the name of God are lost.

    If they only realized their True Guide...Jesus, then the world would be a different place.
    Are you saying that there is no justification for violence against those that disagree with you on religion/politics if you believe in Jesus/God?

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    Are you saying that there is no justification for violence against those that disagree with you on religion/politics if you believe in Jesus/God?

    Yes, there is no justification for violence against those that do not believe as I do.

    I feel the only justification for violence is to rid the world of those that in my opinion are dead already. The dictators that are in power that oppress their own people with violence. The criminal warlords that are in power throughout the world that are perpetrating genocide.

    Those groups, those power mongers...I support our troops 100% to rid the world of.

    However, just because someone or some group does not believe as I do...as long as they have peaceful beliefs, and not violent ones...then I have no problem at all with live and let live.

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    So, your God as you know him is a "Do as I say, not as I do" kind of god?

    Since the dawn of recorded Christian History your god has whacked infidels that did not agree with him politically/religiously.

    If you don't understand and accept that I suggest you re-read Genesis and Exodus.

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    Bigzak, look up the "No true Scotsman" logical fallacy. That will tell you why your logic is incorrect.

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    Good God Zak. You are gonna get struck by lightning typing like that. You need to brush up on your history. Does 'The Crusades" ring a bell with you?
    The call to arms came from the pope after more fundamentalist muslims took over from alright muslims and started being s to nonmuslims. Its basically the same as it is now. Overeactive s ruining the world for everyone else. The inquisition OTOH

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    The call to arms came from the pope after more fundamentalist muslims took over from alright muslims and started being s to nonmuslims. Its basically the same as it is now. Overeactive s ruining the world for everyone else. The inquisition OTOH
    Yeah, I didn't want to completely blow his mind with The Inquisition. What little he has left is apparently quite fragile.

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    So, your God as you know him is a "Do as I say, not as I do" kind of god?

    Since the dawn of recorded Christian History your god has whacked infidels that did not agree with him politically/religiously.

    If you don't understand and accept that I suggest you re-read Genesis and Exodus.

    No, not my God. Not our God.

    Our God is THE ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD.

    A peaceful, loving, and merciful God.

    The god of wrath. The god of unforgiving judgment. The god of vengeance.
    That is Satan. He is a masterful deceiver.

    I have not read the Old Testament. I have plans to once I finish the new Testament. But I feel I will be able to distinguish which was which by their actions.

    Satan has been playing this game to win and condemn us all along with him since the beginning of time as we know it.

    I am here to expose Satan for the liar he is. He is a wannabe god.

    I feel I will face him one day and do my part to cast him down to for all eternity.

    But until that day, I will help to expose him for all of us true believers to see with eyes wide open.

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    Bigzak, look up the "No true Scotsman" logical fallacy. That will tell you why your logic is incorrect.
    I will look this up as you suggest. But my logic is not incorrect...for it is driven by my heart...which is becoming closer to true love as each day passes.

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    I will look this up as you suggest. But my logic is not incorrect...for it is driven by my heart...which is becoming closer to true love as each day passes.
    Technically, logic is not about heart, but brains. Check up on that fallacy and you'll see what we're getting at.

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    Moses was peaceful, too.
    Cf. Genesis 32:27.

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