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    No, they want 400 yard kill zones on their property. CC would love having that on his ranch.

    Hypothetically.
    If they can get 12K for a 170 class whitetail I wonder what I could get for a drug runner hunt?

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    I wonder what I could get for a drug runner hunt?
    Are you advocating a commercial drug runner hunt?

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    Berlin Wall was, afaik the only wall in history, to keep people in, imprisoned.
    I'm sure that's what they told their polity, too -- none of these horror stories we hear in this country about alien hordes who will undermine our whole way of life if we don't fence their disease-ridden, morally-deficient thief-bas asses out!!!


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    Are you advocating a commercial drug runner hunt?
    Sure chump. Or maybe a bounty like they have for coyotes. Just turn their ears in for cash.

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    Sure chump. Or maybe a bounty like they have for coyotes. Just turn their ears in for cash.
    OK, it's good to see your finally advocating something.

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    OK, it's good to see your finally advocating something.



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    If they can get 12K for a 170 class whitetail I wonder what I could get for a drug runner hunt?
    Ah... the most dangerous game

    Too bad they'd have more firepower and killer instinct than, say, John Wayne.

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    Ah... the most dangerous game

    Too bad they'd have more firepower and killer instinct than, say, John Wayne.
    not necessarily.

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    seismic sensors. explosives. That or just wait till they pop out of the hole and shoot em like prairie dogs.
    How far down you go with the explosives?
    How are you going to shoot them if you don't know where the exit is?

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    How far down you go with the explosives?
    How are you going to shoot them if you don't know where the exit is?



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    So you have no idea...

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    So you have no idea...


    hook, line, and sinker.

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    You know, given the amount of money we already waste, my at ude towards this is basically it. If it doesn't do anything to secure the boarders we can laugh at everyone who thought it was a good idea. If it works? Bonus.

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    ah, so this explains many of your posts.

    I just thought you were stupid.

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    ah, so this explains many of your posts.

    I just thought you were stupid.
    With you, I didn't have to wonder. I knew.

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    How far down you go with the explosives?
    How are you going to shoot them if you don't know where the exit is?
    Seriously, it's simple. The technology was developed in the 1960's here in San Antonio (Southwest Research) for finding tunnels in Viet Nam. Simple portable seismic stuff. I'm sure they have perfected it even more since then. Drive your detection vehicle down the south fence every couple of weeks. Find a tunnel 30' down? No problem. Mark it. Bring in a little pickup mounted drill rig. Drill a 2" borehole down till you hit tunnel. Back up two bobtail tanker trucks. One with LOX and one with LPG. Drop the hoses down the bore hole. Turn on the valves. Fill the tunnel with Natural gas and O2. Back off 200 yards and ignite. Look South. That mushroom cloud? That's where the tunnel started. The tunnel diggers? If they didn't get incinerated in the initial blast, and the fuel/air bomb didn't completely crater the tunnel (it would) the blast still sucked all the oxygen out. Dead diggers.

    After you blow up a couple hundred tunnels under construction it's gonna be awful hard for the narcos to hire tunnel diggers.
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    @ Cowboy hiding behind hypotheticals

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    Well guys, get a grip on what SEALING the border would take. killing narco's IS the ultimate deterrent to penetration. Your average illegal wouldn't even attempt it.

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    Well guys, get a grip on what SEALING the border would take. killing narco's IS the ultimate deterrent to penetration. Your average illegal wouldn't even attempt it.
    I don't think anyone's saying that killing people crossing the border would be an effective deterrent. However, would it be worth the time, money and effort to put a system in place to do that? What about possible negative repercussions?

    It's easy to say that we could fix our economy by just having everyone invent things that everyone needs; much harder in practice.

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    Seriously, it's simple. The technology was developed in the 1960's here in San Antonio (Southwest Research) for finding tunnels in Viet Nam. Simple portable seismic stuff. I'm sure they have perfected it even more since then. Drive your detection vehicle down the south fence every couple of weeks. Find a tunnel 30' down? No problem. Mark it. Bring in a little pickup mounted drill rig. Drill a 2" borehole down till you hit tunnel. Back up two bobtail tanker trucks. One with LOX and one with LPG. Drop the hoses down the bore hole. Turn on the valves. Fill the tunnel with Natural gas and O2. Back off 200 yards and ignite. Look South. That mushroom cloud? That's where the tunnel started. The tunnel diggers? If they didn't get incinerated in the initial blast, and the fuel/air bomb didn't completely crater the tunnel (it would) the blast still sucked all the oxygen out. Dead diggers.

    After you blow up a couple hundred tunnels under construction it's gonna be awful hard for the narcos to hire tunnel diggers.
    The last tunnel found was up to 90 feet deep, 5 feet high, and 2400 foot long. It included lights, a ventilation system and a water drainage system. It went from Tijuana to San Diego. Now, this is at a time where they're not really desperate.

    You're simply not going to stop these people from selling their to the number one drug consumer in the world. They move as much money as you can throw at this problem.

    Plus there's always the human factor. It gets to a point where it's cheaper to corrupt somebody to let you pass the stuff if it comes to that.

    This is exactly like the war on drugs. A good excuse to burn through money without tangible results.

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    Well guys, get a grip on what SEALING the border would take. killing narco's IS the ultimate deterrent to penetration. Your average illegal wouldn't even attempt it.
    Uh? The average illegal risk their lives every time they try to cross and they're fully aware of it. Death is certainly not a deterrent in this case.

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    Ironic that the same people that celebrated the downfall of the Berlin wall now contemplate this...
    The Berlin was was to keep people in. This one is top keep people out.

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    You guys are still trying to put me in that stereotype republican box.

    I'm saying that for all the politicians (democrat and republican) that are "for" sealing the border it's impossible. The ONLY way to do it is something as draconian as I just facetiously proposed and they would still find a way to get drugs into the country.

    I say legalize, regulate, and distribute pot. Take the narcos bread and butter away from them. Come up with a very reasonable and easy to get green card system. The trade off is they agree to stay in the system and pay a tax (10%?) Make it in employers best interest to hire green card aliens ( no matching SS and Medicaid, no WC or UC) and the fine the everloving out of the employers that still hire the undo ented workers. Get caught here illegal? You're going back to Mexico in a cattle truck today if we don't put your ass in jail for whatever law you broke that brought you to our attention.

    Amend the 14th amendment. It's outlived it's time. It was put in place to make sure all slave children would have citizenship. We haven't had slaves for 150 years. this anchor baby bull .

    OK, my proposal isn't perfect and I'm sure you guys will get hardons trying to shoot holes in it...chump will sit back and go "does this mean you...(fill in the blank)"

    whatever.

    Lay your ing plans on the table.

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    Amend the 14th amendment. It's outlived it's time. It was put in place to make sure all slave children would have citizenship. We haven't had slaves for 150 years. this anchor baby bull .

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    Lay your ing plans on the table.
    I would like to see that done, but that is a difficult task.

    How about making declaring a ward in each border hospital as Mexican soil, leasing it to Mexican doctors for a very reasonable monthly rate. Then when a child is born, they are given a Mexican consulate birth certificate?

    Now I know there are some legal issue I'm not aware of, but why couldn't a wing of a hospital be declared such?

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    I wonder how many people will support it when they find out how much it'll cost and just how worthless it'll be.

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