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    Clever got me this far... JMarkJohns's Avatar
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    What happens to her on the 22nd?

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    bandwagon hater
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    What happens to her on the 22nd?
    Nothing apparently from reading the website. Jesus doesnt do much until October 21st 2011. Thats when the earth goes boom.

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    Your so smart Online. Frenzy's Avatar
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    But there will still be internetz right?....right?!

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    just in time for my birthday!

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    Nothing apparently from reading the website. Jesus doesnt do much until October 21st 2011. Thats when the earth goes boom.
    If Jesus does that he's a bigger than I thought.

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    holy ! i am not even ready......

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    Seek True Love, within. bigzak25's Avatar
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    Looks like I have a lot of work to do and I'm running out of time to do it.

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    "Not even the angels in heaven know the day of my return, only my Father knows the day..."

    - Jesus Christ

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    I hope all these people and the 2012 s auction/garage sale all their stuff off before the big day. I'll definitely take advantage of their stupidity.

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    "Not even the angels in heaven know the day of my return, only my Father knows the day..."

    - Jesus Christ
    bench ad lady just got phenowned

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    ...and then on the 22nd we can all laugh our arses off at how stupid this and everyone like her is. Thousands of people have made predictions like this in the last 20 years alone, and guess what, they were all wrong, and missed the point by so far they came out in Bizarro World.

    The world is in deep , but it has nothing to do with Jesus. I find the human animal's ability to delude itself utterly amazing. Most people would rather focus on anything - celebrity culture, religion, stupid prognostications - other than the bare facts of what is happening around them in the world, namely peakoil, climate change, desertification, disappearing fisheries, mass extinction, economic chaos that makes the rich richer whilst ing everyone else, etc

    But yeah, lets ignore all the real problems in the world and focus on doomsday prophets... the grand irony of which is that ignoring the real problems will bring our civilastion to a nasty reckoning, only it won't be the Apocalypse or the Ascension. It will be the horror of war, famine, pestilence and des ution brought on by horrifically mismanaging the world resources and natural systems. Ugh.

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    Seek True Love, within. bigzak25's Avatar
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    ...and then on the 22nd we can all laugh our arses off at how stupid this and everyone like her is. Thousands of people have made predictions like this in the last 20 years alone, and guess what, they were all wrong, and missed the point by so far they came out in Bizarro World.

    The world is in deep , but it has nothing to do with Jesus. I find the human animal's ability to delude itself utterly amazing. Most people would rather focus on anything - celebrity culture, religion, stupid prognostications - other than the bare facts of what is happening around them in the world, namely peakoil, climate change, desertification, disappearing fisheries, mass extinction, economic chaos that makes the rich richer whilst ing everyone else, etc

    But yeah, lets ignore all the real problems in the world and focus on doomsday prophets... the grand irony of which is that ignoring the real problems will bring our civilastion to a nasty reckoning, only it won't be the Apocalypse or the Ascension. It will be the horror of war, famine, pestilence and des ution brought on by horrifically mismanaging the world resources and natural systems. Ugh.
    Sorry ruffnready, but why pray tell is she a ' '?

    The real problem in this world is within us all.

    When we make the choices we make for selfish reasons instead of selfless ones, we are part of the problem.

    When we choose hate over love, we are part of the problem.

    When we choose war over peace.

    When we choose science over faith.

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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    ...and then on the 22nd we can all laugh our arses off at how stupid this and everyone like her is. Thousands of people have made predictions like this in the last 20 years alone, and guess what, they were all wrong, and missed the point by so far they came out in Bizarro World.

    The world is in deep , but it has nothing to do with Jesus. I find the human animal's ability to delude itself utterly amazing. Most people would rather focus on anything - celebrity culture, religion, stupid prognostications - other than the bare facts of what is happening around them in the world, namely peakoil, climate change, desertification, disappearing fisheries, mass extinction, economic chaos that makes the rich richer whilst ing everyone else, etc

    But yeah, lets ignore all the real problems in the world and focus on doomsday prophets... the grand irony of which is that ignoring the real problems will bring our civilastion to a nasty reckoning, only it won't be the Apocalypse or the Ascension. It will be the horror of war, famine, pestilence and des ution brought on by horrifically mismanaging the world resources and natural systems. Ugh.

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    When we choose science over faith.

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    How can Jesus return if he's been dead for two thousand years?

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    Cuz He kicked death's ass, that's how.

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    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    He couldn't kick a few Roman Centurions' asses though.

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    Seek True Love, within. bigzak25's Avatar
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    It's not His way.

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    Sorry ruffnready, but why pray tell is she a ' '?

    The real problem in this world is within us all.

    When we make the choices we make for selfish reasons instead of selfless ones, we are part of the problem.

    When we choose hate over love, we are part of the problem.

    When we choose war over peace.

    When we choose science over faith.
    Yes
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    So you'd rather base decisions on faith than reasoning based on evidence? Can you not see how incredibly stupid that is? I'm not saying you can't have your faith - that is your choice - but making decisions based on faith is a horrendous idea. Thank you're not running anything important, because what you are basically saying is that you'll ignore the evidence in preference for crossing your fingers.

    Actually, the bigger problem is that you draw a binary dichotomy between faith and scientific endeavour. The two are utterly incompatible and usually applied to very different spheres of life. Faith is an entirely personal choice - science is about using evidence to discover objective knowledge about the way the world operates. Why you, and many others, conflate the two I'll never know.

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    Seek True Love, within. bigzak25's Avatar
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    I'm running something very important, my household.

    I'm sorry my friend, but I feel you are lost in your ego and your science at the moment.

    My faith is that True Love Conquers All.

    Science is a tool. I appreciate it as a tool.

    But it is nothing more than that and it has it's limitations, as any tool does.

    The power of faith in God and Jesus is limitless.

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    Ruffy RuffnReadyOzStyle's Avatar
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    I'm running something very important, my household.

    I'm sorry my friend, but I feel you are lost in your ego and your science at the moment.

    My faith is that True Love Conquers All.

    Science is a tool. I appreciate it as a tool.

    But it is nothing more than that and it has it's limitations, as any tool does.

    The power of faith in God and Jesus is limitless.
    And I'm sure you run your household well - I was referring to broader society, in which basing decisions on faith and not reason would be an unmitigated disaster. And I'm also sure that most of the decisions you make on behalf of your household engage rational decision making, not faith.

    Why, if you "appreciate science as a tool", do you then place it in binary opposition to faith? Why don't you recognise that the two are entirely separate and unrelated?

    Actually, you're not my friend and you don't know me at all, so that is entirely presumptuous and condescending of you. Ego is not my problem. I am utterly aware of my meaninglessness in the universe.

    The power of faith is not going to rescue the planet from resource depletion, rapid change in the carbon cycle or toxic pollution. The power of faith is limitless only within the confines of your mind. When your "faith in true love" can resurrect the thousands of species we are killing every year, bring the carbon cycle back into balance, nourish the soils, and restore our depleted natural resources and ecosystems, let me know.

    BTW, I'm going to leave this here because it is a pointless discussion.
    Last edited by RuffnReadyOzStyle; 07-31-2010 at 01:48 AM.

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    Seek True Love, within. bigzak25's Avatar
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    And I'm sure you run your household well - I was referring to broader society, in which basing decisions on faith and not reason would be an unmitigated disaster.

    Why, if you "appreciate science as a tool", do you then place it in binary opposition to faith? Why don't you recognize that the two are entirely separate and unrelated?

    Actually, you're not my friend and you don't know me at all, so that is entirely presumptuous and condescending of you. Ego is not my problem. I am utterly aware of my meaninglessness in the universe.

    The power of faith is not going to rescue the planet from resource depletion, rapid change in the carbon cycle or toxic pollution. The power of faith is limitless only within the confines of your mind.

    BTW, I'm going to leave this here because it is a pointless discussion.
    Well, I feel that I am your friend. I would help you if you ever needed anything, and would love to have a friendly chat, maybe a beer if you ever make it to San Antonio for a GTG...you are a fan of David Robinson, and any fan of DRob has gotta have some good mojo in him.

    I tell you now that I am not your enemy. Of this I am certain.

    As for your viewpoint the the fate of society being an unmitigated disaster if the decisions were faith based instead of reasoning based...well...how far has this reasoning brought us? Has reasoning ended world hunger? Has reasoning brought us world peace? I believe there is more evidence that reasoning has led to this 'unmitigated disaster' that you speak of.

    I do not place science in binary opposition, forgive me for the confusion, but I do have opposition to the thought processes of those that place the entirety of their faith in science alone.

    Let me also add that you sir, are NOT meaningless in the universe, for you are one of God's children. Your glory in heaven can be as great and as everlasting as you wish it to be.

    And contrarily to your last points, the power of faith WILL be the salvation of this planet from resource depletion and toxic pollution.

    I will agree with your 2nd to last statement though...that "The power of faith is limitless only within the confines of your mind."

    Whatever you truly believe...so shall it be.

    I choose to believe in true love. I know you said it is pointless to continue our discussion, but if that is the case, then I'd just like to end on a good note.

    May God Bless you Ruff.

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    Seek True Love, within. bigzak25's Avatar
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    And I'm also sure that most of the decisions you make on behalf of your household engage rational decision making, not faith.

    Okay my friend, I think we can reach a compromise here and I'll agree that all of my decisions are rational decisions...but rational based on faith.

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    Seek True Love, within. bigzak25's Avatar
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    Let me ask you something Ruff, and I pose this question to any and all that wish to answer it.


    What drives you each and every day to do the things that you do?

    Is it your heart, or is it your mind?

    It is my belief that our heart is our driving force and our mind is but the tool we use to accomplish the goals that our heart has set forth for us.

    That is why it is very important that our hearts not be in turmoil.

    For a heart in turmoil, leads to wreckless and unwise decisions.

    While a heart at peace...well, that leads to tranquility, patience, wisdom.

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