In honor of the dominant Pistons' defense of the last era, this thread is about performances against the Pistons' D during that time..which players managed to beat them and had the best performances against them?(game or series)..which players did they own the most?(game or series)..when exactly did their D fall off from the previous standard they had set?..which year was their peak?..
I see where this thread is going.
And we all know which years their D peaked, 2004 and 2005 when they had Larry Brown's coaching + the starting lineup of Wallace, Wallace, Prince Hamilton and Billups.
Once Brown left and they still had that starting lineup in 2006, they were an elite defensive team but not the dominant defensive team they were only gonna be with Brown as coach. Saunders tried to instill zones that didn't work and he also stopped demanding the defense Brown demanded from Billups, he made Billups a better offensive player but a much weaker defender, and Prince also wasn't the lockdown perimeter defender he was with Brown as coach.
Once they lost Brown and Wallace but still had the other 4 starters in 2007 and 2008, their D still stayed top 10 but was neither elite nor dominant. The offense Webber provided at center made the 2007 Pistons perhaps a better offensive team than the 2004-2006 Pistons but it did not nearly make up for the defense they lost with Brown and Wallace gone.
Of course, once they lost Billups, their leader on and off the court, their whole team imploded.
The obsession continues...
theres a ing pistons forum gopost there
..I don't get it?..
Raise the bar, please..
lol harlemheat38 u haven't raised the bar at all ur not good at posting, u can't even follow forum rules and u make threads about teams in the wrong forum. just die.
They owned Kobe in 04 and Manu owned them in 05.
Ugh..HarlemHeat38?..you gave me a higher number?..that's your insult?..I don't understand..
Good examples, TBH..I obviously remember Manu's heroics in 2005, I forgot about Kobe in '04 though, good point..
Basically Teyshaun Prince's mental softness played a big role in why Detroit only won 1 le. In 2004 Detroit won it all largely because of a clutch big time block on Reggie Miller and then lockdown D on Kobe in the next series. After that though he turned into a who would always become invisible at the wrong time and his team got sent packing because of a monster series from a wing player. If Ginobili is as bad in 2005 as Kobe was in 2004, Detroit repeats. If Prince isn't so much of a in 2007 that Billups has to guard Lebron, they play San Antonio in the finals and have a chance to win. I remember reading a rant from Jamstone about how much of a Prince always was when they coulda used a big play from him, and looking back on it he's right.
lol hahah dumb thinks a typo is an insult good job at raising the bar ur real good poster. go post in the pistons forum pistons fan. lol
Now please stop, raise the bar, I'm not going to respond to you once again..
Back on topic..great points from DOK about the Pistons' D, interesting..
tbh it's funny that Lakerfan whines about raising the bar when all they've posted in this thread is "obsession".
lol olol ol lol hahahah an imaginary medal given to u by some random person lol wow ur a great poster keep on making great threads in the wrong forum. ur basketball talk is on the highest pedestal of excellence. lol all st 2nd team lol way to accomplish something that you can tell ur reject kids haha u suck man get a life.
I'm interested to hear Medvedenko's thoughts on the Pistons' defense..this is a basketball thread, he apparently has good basketball takes..he should also be familiar with the Pistons' D of the past few generations, since he was old enough to watch Jordan(as he always reminds us), and his cousin also played against the Pistons' D in the NBA Finals..
It should be interesting..
In the last thread I made, which was about performances in close-out/elimination games, he once again criticized the thread, yet didn't give any basketball takes, while most others in the thread gave examples..
True, I am anxious to hear the emo Canadian's basketball take.
I know Piston's fans didn't like the minutes Prince received claiming he would flame-out in the playoffs, matching up with LeBron and Pierce.
Didn't you just read what Kori said? Raise the ing bar!
I remember in 04 that the Lakers had to put Medvedenko in the starting lineup because nothing is working for them anymore. TBH, I enjoyed watching the Pistons when they were dominant in the middle part of 00s. I really doubted that the Spurs can pull it off after we lost in Game 6.
lol
peak- 09
Brian Scalabrine, game 5 2004 second round.
6-for-7 from the field
4-for-4 from 3 point range
17 points
in 23 minutes
Nets win the game
Triple over time game, everyone was fouling out on both teams. Scalabrine not only hit a bunch of shots, he hit big shots in overtime. After LeBron's huge game against the Pistons in 2007 (but that wasn't against the 2004 Pistons defense) the best performance by a player against that Pistons core defense.
lol spurstalk all-2nd team
I remember that game from Scal, one of the funniest games I've ever seen..that was the same game where Billups made the rare big shot buzzer beater, right?..
Ohhhhh ya, Lebron's big game vs. Detroit, that slipped my mind TBH..one of the great performances in the NBA's history..
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