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How exactly do you decide this?
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How exactly do you decide this?
Well which team you think was a lay down.
IMO it was the one who got swept led by Lebron.
You probably need some parameters. Is it the worst supporting cast lead by a true 'superstar'. Or a team that had a decent supporting cast but underachieved.
For the worst supporting cast.. i would say the LeBron lead Cavs in 2007 that got swept by the Spurs... how that team made it to the Finals i have no ing idea. The Garnett lead Wolves that missed the playoffs were pretty bad, as were the Kobe-lead Lakers before the Gasol trade... but that was more to do with ty supporting casts than those Kobe and KG.
The team that probably underachieved the most was... probably the 2007 Mavs... although that was more than a fluke/bad matchup.
Well a true superstar should have led them to atleast one win if they made the finals. Wouldn't you agree? I mean yeah its the east that wasn't all that powerful at the time but they made it none the less and then rolled over.
I don't understand. Lebron's team that got to the finals won 50 games. You can't really think a team that won 50 games and got to the finals, was really the worst superstar led team in the last 10 years. In fact, I've always respected Lebron's performance that year. It was a truly remarkable feat for him to get that group of guys to the finals.
I think the worst superstar led team was probably D-Wade's 08 Heat team, they won a whopping 15 games. You have to give Wade a bit of a pass, since he was hurt most of the year. But that team was horrible. I'm sure it was after that debacle of a season, that Wade began to have ideas of teaming up with some of his buddies.
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That team didn't make the finals. The Cavs did and got swept. They even had a chance to win atleast one game but Lebron couldn't lead them to that win. In fact he was never able to lead them to any kind of post season sucess, even when he had a real deep team.
1 > 0
09 Lakers > 07 Spurs
Hmm off the top of my head...
KG's Wolves
Kobe's Lakers pre-Gasol
Iverson's 76ers after 2001
LeBron's Cavs in 2007
Wade's Heat in 2008
Dude like you said, D-Wade was injured for most of the 2008 season. The 2007 Cavs would've been lucky to crack 12 wins in 2007 without LeBron. Weren't you guys starting a lineup featuring Big Z, Gooden, Pavlovic, and Boobie Gibson? Jesus that's awful, even for the East.
When exactly did LeBron had a deep team?
Not counting the Heat
How they made it to the finals is easy. They needed a Bulls loss in the final game of the season to snatch the 2nd seed from them. If anything it could have been the Bulls in the ECF against the Pistons. Arenas got injured the last week or so of the season so they easily skimmed through the wizards in the first round. Kidd injured his ankle in the second round so they easily skimmed right through them. Then Lebron went ape on the Pistons en route to a 4-0 loss to the Spurs.
What exactly are we talking about in this thread? Are we talking about worst supporting cast? Or worst team led by a superstar? These are two different things. If you're talking about worst supporting cast, you'd be judging the team without the superstar. If you're talking about the worst team led by a superstar, you'd be judging the whole team's performance.
I assumed he meant the worst team led by a superstar, hence the le.
Yes, you're probably right. But techically speaking, you can never know how they would do without Lebron. What matters is how they did with him. Saying they would have been lucky to win 12 games is hypothetical, even though I can understand why you would say so. At the end of the day though, you can't say a team that won 50 games and made it to the finals isn't better than a team that won only 15 games.
I think you can though, because it's within the context of the le. But like I said, D-Wade was injured most of that year, so it's hard to compare the two, but there's no denying the 2007 Cavs were the worst team to make it to the Finals in the last decade, maybe even the last 20, or even 30 years.
I think KG's Wolves is a pretty good nomination for worst team with a bona fide superstar.
Definately the 2007 Cavs. All those starters besides Lebron are/were bench/role players on other teams. Hughes? Gooden? Marshall? Gibson?
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Probably a couple of those McGrady led Magic teams. Even though McGrady being injured all the time didn't help matters any.
Gasol led Grizzlies should be up there. Never won a single playoff game. Swept every year.
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