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a bullet would fix the problem
a bullet would fix the problem
I read an article where bubba TX's response to abolition and desgregation was to create 7000+ laws whose violation is a state felony, aka, how to keep the brown and black people in their place, and out of bubba's place. Just another evil use of "states' rights".
Marijuana laws and the War on Drugs are, in effect and practice, fundamentally racist.
I was almost thrown in jail the other day on a Failure to Appear Warrant that I, in fact, appeared for a few days early (for a traffic violation that was dismissed, no less). Luckily the cop was cool and double checked the warrant when I told him I went to court and sure enough there was no warrant out, it was just a delay at the court house in processing paperwork.
There are too many stupid laws which burdens instead of protects our citizens. In my case, it might be easy for you to say "well the mistake got cleared up" and "you would have gotten out of jail eventually with no harm done" but had the officer shown up a few hours earlier or not been as cool I would have spent 4 hours (cop's estimate) in jail for a ticket that got dismissed because the judge agreed I violated no law. What purpose would that have served?
Is America a better place because the 65 year old guy who collects Orchids in his story is in jail?
Rather strange for a country in which praise for individual "freedom" is repeated ad nauseum throughout the land, to say the least, that incarceration rates are so high and the list of possible criminal infractions for a citizen is so long. Of course, in a weird way that might explain the freedom lust.
One might think that the ideal justice system would be clear as to what were possible crimes for which you could do jail time, obvious why those were crimes, and punish those who violate the rights of other individuals to do as they please, so long as they do not infringe upon others to do the same.
That more and more crimes are now administrative in nature (ie not filing certain paperwork) rather than the usual violent and theft crimes says a lot about where we are as a nation.
What? The land of the free?
Whoever told you that is your enemy
usa! Usa! Usa!what? The land of the free?
Whoever told you that is your enemy
It would fix the problem of overcrowding, indeed.
In the U.S., as of June 2002, 108 people including 12 death row inmates, have been exonerated by use of DNA tests. The increasing use of DNA testing to help confirm the innocence or guilt in capital cases is one among many reforms that will help ensure that innocent people are not sentenced to death.Linda Dorman, an Akron, Ohio, great-grandmother had $4,000 in cash taken from her by local authorities [in Shelby Texas] when she was stopped while driving through town after visiting Houston in April 2007. Court records make no mention that anything illegal was found in her van. She's still hoping for the return of what she calls her life savings.[8] In another instance, a man was taken to the local prison and directed to surrender thousands of dollars in cash and jewelry, then released without charges.Since 2003, at least 34 officers and civilian employees of the department have been indicted on corruption charges, including ticket fixing, robbery, pros ution, extortion and drug conspiracy.
"It's alarming that you'd have that caliber of crime committed within the ranks of a police department," said David Robinson, a civil rights lawyer and former Detroit police officer.
A member of the National Police Accountability Project, a nonprofit arm of the National Lawyers Guild that aims to combat police misconduct, Robinson said Memphis' corruption troubles appear "extreme" for a medium-sized police department.
"It is indicative that something is wrong from the top down," he said.
Academic experts who study police corruption offer a more guarded assessment. They say it's difficult to know if the rash of indictments within the MPD means the department is declining or rising. For starters, there is no uniform measurement of police corruption.The same government that you rail against for being corrupt and inefficient has suddenly becomes the pinnacle of trustworthiness?Nearly 24 years after he was wrongfully convicted of murder, Michael Tillman is free, and exonerated.
Tillman served more than two decades in prison for the murder of Betty Howard, a 42-year-old mail clerk whose body was found in a building where Tillman was living. He was 20 at the time.
"I'm glad justice was done," Tillman said upon his release. "I was a victim too."
With your solution, it would be very easy for corrupt politicians and police to silence potential witnesses or pesky whistleblowers.
Frame them, let the wheels of justice grind them into a corpse, and viola! no one able to stand up to them.
Still think that is a good idea?
"Still think that is a good idea?"
you're asking ing DUCKS if he thinks?
The main problem is that the guiding principle of criminal justice in the United States is not the punishment of those who violate the rights of others, but instead the adjustment and management of the behavior of individuals. Hence individuals doing jail time for non-violent "crimes" which did not infringe on anyone else's rights and for which the perpetrator was not even aware. How odd for someone to do jail time for a crime with no victim. Obviously a large subset of those individuals have been caught as part of this nation's "War on Drugs."
This underlying philosophy is also seen in federal tax code, which is used often by politicians of all stripes to modify the behavior of the public.
Unfortunately this is now the American "tradition," though this contravenes the original spirit and intent of the American founding. Of course, when the American memory is limited to what happened five minutes ago, it's not that surprising.
This administrative state will never go away. Sure, it will ebb and flow, but generations have been conditioned to its rule, and true liberty scares them.
"Still think that is a good idea?"
you're asking ing DUCKS if he thinks?
There could be several reasons for the chart as it is. Maybe we don't kill as many criminals as other places. maybe we have more criminal illegal aliens to deal with because we have no effective border control. Maybe we allow kids in school to be disrespectful asses, and they become worse as adults.What? The land of the free?
Whoever told you that is your enemy
A single statistic is meaningless without knowing more.
Some libertine. And read the article.
Here's another fun example of vital law inforcement in America
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/08/01...ail-for-v.html
Awesome.
So you can be put in jail for crimes against the state, or for crimes against yourself (use of "controlled substances.") The goal seems to be the perfection of the public to meet ideals other than what each individual citizen determines for themselves.
It's called authoritarianism.
Lie to the feds, a felony, fine, prison, conviction record destroys your job prospects.
Feds lie to the country (WMD, etc), 100s of 1000s of people die, feds skate free.
Yes...
If it was a lie, why were so many democrats saying the same thing?
Why did president Clinton sign an order for regime change in Iraq, that helped prompt president Bush to carry out?
"If it was a lie [sic]"
if it WERE a lie
IT WAS A LIE.
less Dems (outside of Magic Negro and a couple others) followed the Repug/neo-con lie.
The Repugs were in no way constrained to follow anything that Clinton did. and they very definitely undid a lot of stuff Clinton did.
So all your only defense is that the Dems were suckered by the Repug lies? That's just another version of the "the Repugs are no worse than the Dems" defense.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 08-02-2010 at 02:57 PM.
When that statistic shows a great disparity between us and other nations, I think it has merit. Even if we don't kill as many criminals, or have problem children, etc etc, that doesn't justify the incarceration rate.
What do you mean "if" it were a lie? Are you still not convinced? Unbelievable, what a ing tool.
I agree it has merit, but what merit? What are the reasons? I don't see it as us being tougher than other nations. I see it as indicating we have more people who are morally deficit.
It depends on how you wish to define a lie. In the strictest definition, it was a lie. However, it was thought to be the truth when it was said.
The prominent democrats had access to the same information. Did they lie too?
LOL, I had a similar thing happen to me. I was arrested for failure to appear when I had appeared. Luckily the detective who was assigned to find and take me down was pretty cool, and allowed me to wait until my day off to turn myself in. He took me to the station, where I had to wait for two hours, and then some other cops took me over to county. I was in processing still awaiting an explanation and I kept telling everyone that I had appeared. Then some cop asked me my name I gave it to him, he furrowed his brow as he looked at the computer screen asked again, I gave again. He looks up at his boss and shouts to him "We have the wrong guy, this one hasn't done anything." So they let me go. ers didn't even drive me back home.
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