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  1. #251
    sweating bullets Dave Mustaine's Avatar
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    >he thinks Radiohead is popular only because of Pablo Honey
    It's not?

    lol knowing nothing about one of your favorite bands

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    It's not?

    lol knowing nothing about one of your favorite bands
    lol thinking people listen to Radiohead only because of Creep

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    lol thinking they don't

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    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    Yeah, Radiohead fans just love Pablo Honey! When they rank the Radiohead albums, it's always at the top of the list.

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    pitchfork tells radiohead sheep in which order to rank them. im sorry the people that enjoy the same music as you listen what an awful music review website tells you.

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    >he thinks people need Pitchfork to tell them that Pablo Honey is a mediocre album at best

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    you have them tell you everything else to listen to.

    any list you post of favorite bands will no doubt be pitchfork approved.

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    Redzero you're a ing black man from New Orleans listening to the whitest i've ever heard of..i don't think your opinions carry much weight just sayin..

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    Really? Pitchfork loves Arcade Fire and I strongly dislike them. Pitchfork loves The Dismemberment Plan and I hate them. Pitchfork likes a bunch of ty rappers like Curren$y and Gucci Mane.

    You give Pitchfork far more credit than it's worth.

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    Redzero you're a ing black man from New Orleans listening to the whitest i've ever heard of..i don't think your opinions carry much weight just sayin..
    Sorry I don't listen to ty, unimaginative, repe ive rap because it's "black."



    I guess I'll keep listening to the white while you listen to some hack bragging about how gansta he is.

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    sweating bullets Dave Mustaine's Avatar
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    that's not really what I said, but uh, ok.

    You give Pitchfork far more credit than it's worth.
    how very hipster of you.

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    You think I like bands because Pitchfork tells me to like them and that I can't think for myself.

    It's funny that Pitchfork is usually brought up by somebody who hates them. You should probably stop talking about it if you don't like it.

    I know that I don't talk about Pitchfork unless somebody brings them up.

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    you wouldn't be caught dead saying you enjoy the site.

    you're not really that different than Durst fan from a few pages ago.

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    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    I like reading pitchfork, brah.

    I even read occasional reviews.

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    How do you know I enjoy Pitchfork? I don't read any of the reviews because they usually suck.

    For example: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/8104-lateralus/

    Eric Partridge's Dictionary of the Underworld (1998 NTC/Contemporary Publishing), a lexicon of 19th Century street slang, defines the idiom "pitch the fork" as "to tell a pitiful tale." The term appeared printed in 1863 in Story of a Lancashire Thief:

    "Brummagem Joe, a cove ["fellow" or "dude," if you will] as could patter or pitch the fork with anyone."

    At last, the secret motivation of my schtick and the etymology behind our name can be revealed. These reviews have been less critique than loquacious concept reviews by an entertaining tramp. So you'd think an 80-minute opus by Tool would be right up our alley. You'd be wrong.

    Undertow, Tool's 1993 debut LP, took studio skill and over-trained chops to metal with aplomb. It was Rush Sabbath. As emotional, melodic metal goes (the cultural impact of which will be left to the reader), it opened doors for bands like the Deftones, and to some degree, Limp Bizkit. However, Tool have always possessed a latent understanding of absurdity and comedy; their videos look like Tim Burton stop-motion, goth Primus.

    But with popularity and praise, Tool's shadowy tongue-in-cheek turned into the simple biting of tongues. \xC6nema ed their sound with electronics and industry, as was the trend at the time. Now, with the early new century demanding "opuses," Tool follows suit. The problem is, Tool defines "opus" as taking their "defining element" (wanking sludge) and stretching it out to the maximum digital capacity of a compact disc.

    Dictionary of the Underworld also offers several definitions for "tool," including: "a small boy used to creep through windows," "to steal from women's pockets," and "to loaf, to idle, to do nothing in particular." All of which oddly strike the nail on the head in relation to Lateralus.

    And now, the obligatory pitching of the fork.

    * * *

    My Summer Vacation, by Crispin Fubert, Ms. Higgins' Eng. Comp. 901

    I believe that music comes and goes in cycles, and some of us are lucky enough to ride the crests. The men in my family are perfect examples of this. Initially, I thought that perfect music appeared every 16 years, which is also the number of years between Fubert generations. My dad was born in 1971. In that year, landmark albums were released. They were Nursery Crime by Genesis (the first with Phil Collins), Yes Album by Yes, Aqualung by Jethro Tull, and In the Land of Grey and Pink by Caravan.

    My grandfather skipped out on Vietnam-- because Jimi Hendrix himself told him to-- and he moved to Canterbury, which is in the United England. There, he got married to my grandmother, who used to sell baked goods to people at concerts, and they had my dad. After the war, they moved back with a box of awesome records like the ones I mentioned. I think it was cosmic or fate or something that my dad was born the same exact day Chrysalis released Aqualung, in March of 1971.

    Jump ahead 16 years later and my dad got this girl pregnant, who turned out to be my mom. It was 1987 and a whole bunch of lame dance music was ruling the world, like Hitler or Jesus or something. But all of the sudden, albums like Metallica's ...And Justice for All, Celtic Frost's Into the Pandemonium, Queensryche's Operation: Mindcrime, and Slayer's South of Heaven came out. That's when I was born.

    All those records were sitting around the house we all live in, and I grew up listening to them in the basement. So I couldn't wait until I was 16, because fate says that would be when 1) more kickass records would come out, and 2) I'd get sex. Both were due, because girls are dumb and listen to stuff like N'S(t)ync and BBSuk. But after this summer of 2001, I've had to rethink my entire cycle theory, like maybe the cycles of music are speeding as time goes forward, since two amazing things happened: Tool put out Lateralus and I saw Tool in concert.

    I feel like this record was made just for me by super-smart aliens or something, because it's just like a cross of 1971 and 1987. Imagine, like, Peter Gabriel with batwings or a flower on his head singing while Lars Ulrich and Rick Wakeman just hammer it down. It's the best Tool record because it's the longest. All summer I worked at Gadzooks, folding novelty t-shirts, and on each break, I would listen to Lateralus because the store just plays hip-hop and dance. My manager would always get on me for taking my breaks 20 minutes too long, but that's how long the album is and it just sucks you in. It's like this big desert world with mountains of riffs, and drum thunderstorms just roll across the sky. The packaging is also cool, since it has this clear book with a skinless guy, and as you turn the pages, it rips off his muscles and stuff. Tool's music does the same thing. It can just rip the muscles and skin off you. I think that's what they meant. So my manager would be like, "Hey, there's a new box of 'Blunt Simpson' shirts I need you to put out and the 'Original Jackass' shelf is getting low." He's a vegan and I would buy him Orange Julius because he didn't know there's egg powder in there.

    The first song is called "The Grudge," and it's about astrology and how people control stuff. Maynard sings like a robot or clone at the opening, spitting, "Wear the crutch like a crown/ Calculate what we will/ Will not tolerate/ Desperate to control/ All and everything." Tool know about space and math, and it's pretty complex. "Saturn ascends/ Not one but ten," he sings. No Doubt and R.E.M. sang out that, too, but those songs were wimpy and short. Maynard shows his intelligence with raw stats. I think there's meaning behind those numbers, like calculus. He also mentions "prison cell" and "tear it down" and "controlling" and "sinking deeper," which all symbolize how he feels. Seven minutes into the song, he does this awesome scream for 24 seconds straight, which is like the longest scream I've ever heard. Then at the end there's this part where Danny Carey hits every drum he has. This wall of drums just pounds you. Then the next song starts and it's quiet and trippy. Tool are the best metal band, since they can get trippy (almost pretty, but in a dark way) then just really loud. Most bands just do loud, so Tool is more prog.

    Danny Carey is the best drummer in rock, dispute that and I know you are a dunce. I made a list of all of his gear (from the June issue of Modern Drummer):

    Drums, Sonor Designer Series (bubinga wood): 8x14 snare (bronze), 8x8 tom, 10x10 tom, 16x14 tom, 18x16 floor tom, two 18x24 bass drums.

    Cymbals, Paiste: 14" Sound Edge Dry Crisp hi-hats, 6" signature bell over 8" signature bell, 10" signature splash, 24" 2002 China, 18" signature full crash, #3 cup chime over #1 cup chime, 18" signature power crash, 12" signature Micro-Hat, 22" signature Dry Heavy ride, 22" signature Thin China, 20" signature Power crash.

    Electronics: Simmons SDX pads, Korg Wave Drum, Roland MC-505, Oberheim TVS.

    Hardware: Sonor stands, Sonor, Axis or Pro-Mark hi-hat stand, Axis or Pearl bass drum petals with Sonor or Pearl beaters (loose string tension, but with long throw).

    Heads: Evans Power Center on snare batter (medium high tuning, no muffling), G2s on tom batters with G1s underneath (medium tuning with bottom head higher than batter), EQ3 bass drum batter with EQ3 resonant on front (medium tuning, with EQ pad touching front and back heads).

    Sticks: Trueline Danny Carey model (wood tip).

    He has his own sticks, even. In "Schism," the double basses just go nuts at the end. They also do in "Eon Blue Apocalypse." And in "The Grudge." And in "Ticks & Leeches." And nobody uses more toms in metal. You can really hear the 8x8 and 10x10 toms in the opening for "Ticks & Leeches." Over the summer, I counted the number of tom hits in that song, and it's 1,023!! Amazing. That's my favorite song, since it's the one that starts with Maynard screaming, "Suck it!" Then he says, "Little parasite." Later he shouts, "This is what you wanted... I hope you choke on it!" Every time I watched my boss suck down those Orange Juliuses I had that stuck in my head.

    There is simply no way you could just dismiss the music (which is excellent). The bass playing is just really creepy and slow and sometimes it has this watery effect. Tool even follow in the footsteps of Caravan with Middle Eastern or Asian or something sounds. "Disposition" features bongos, and then on the next song, "Reflection," Carey's toms sound like bongos or tablas or whatever is in those Fruitopia commercials. Close your eyes and imagine if Asia had a space program. This is like the music they'd play. The song is called "Reflection" since it's quieter and slower and sounds like it's from India, where people go to reflect. Maynard's voice sounds like that little bleached midget girl flying around inside the walls in Polterghost. It's messed up.

    In conclusion, there is more emotion on that album than would be on 30 Weezer albums. At the very least, there's 2.5 times as much. Like I said, it's messed up, like the world, which makes it very real. I don't think I'm going to have a kid this year, but that's also a good thing. Just imagine the Tool record that will come out in three years, according to my theory. It will be the future, and albums can be like longer with better compression and technology. Even as amazing as Lateralus is, I feel like there's a monster coming in three years. Music comes in cycles, and works on math, and my life and Tool are proof of that for sure.

    — Brent DiCrescenzo, May 15, 2001
    I don't even like Tool, but I know that this review is incoherent and idiotic.

    The Fred Durst fan likes Limp Bizkit and admits it. I am indifferent to Pitchfork and only talk about it when somebody else brings it up (like you're doing now).

    I think you should get Pitchfork off your mind because it clearly has effected you.

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    I like reading pitchfork, brah.

    I even read occasional reviews.
    You're still an entry level hipster still getting to know the ropes. It's mandatory for you.

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    How do you know I enjoy Pitchfork? I don't read any of the reviews because they usually suck.

    For example: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/8104-lateralus/



    I don't even like Tool, but I know that this review is incoherent and idiotic.

    The Fred Durst fan likes Limp Bizkit and admits it. I am indifferent to Pitchfork and only talk about it when somebody else brings it up (like you're doing now).

    I think you should get Pitchfork off your mind because it clearly has effected you.
    son you don't have to go this far out of your way to defend yourself from being likened to Durst fan.

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    lmao nu metal

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    son you don't have to go this far out of your way to defend yourself from being likened to Durst fan.
    Son, you don't have to bring up Pitchfork as an excuse when somebody likes a band you don't particularly care for.

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    u2

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    sweating bullets Dave Mustaine's Avatar
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    Son, you don't have to bring up Pitchfork as an excuse when somebody likes a band you don't particularly care for.
    you like radiohead? you can be honest, you often fall asleep at night thinking about Radiohead.

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    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    I fall asleep thinking about Radiohead all the time.

  23. #273
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    Damn, I had no idea about Pitchfork or any of those type of sites. I'm late to the interwebs and always just discovered my by going to a used record store or a CD Exchange or whatnot, tbh.

    Now I guess I'm just gonna have to be rebellion, tbh. I'm stuck in my ways, tbqh. I just listen to what I like and discover randomly, iibth, fwiw.

    Radiohead is not one of them, though, tbchaimnd, sons.






    A big ol' Omnipotent to the first poster who deciphers "tbchaimnd."

  24. #274
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    What the is pitchfork?

    FNM is still my favorite band of all time but I still can't listen to anything prior to Mike Patton because Chuck Mosely's vocals make me wanna kill myself. It's a shame because they had some damn good songs on their earlier albums.

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    Damn, I had no idea about Pitchfork or any of those type of sites. I'm late to the interwebs and always just discovered my by going to a used record store or a CD Exchange or whatnot, tbh.

    Now I guess I'm just gonna have to be rebellion, tbh. I'm stuck in my ways, tbqh. I just listen to what I like and discover randomly, iibth, fwiw.

    Radiohead is not one of them, though, tbchaimnd, sons.






    A big ol' Omnipotent to the first poster who deciphers "tbchaimnd."
    to be completely honest and in meaning no disrespect

    boom es.

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