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    No, it's not for the same reasons. Troops in Iraq are actively ENGAGED in war with insurgents. Troops in South Korea and Germany are not.

    Having troops there as a reminder of who freed them is a desperately pathetic legitimization of their presence.
    Please don't tell me you think it was a cake walk the first few years in Germany or Korea.

    You would be really wrong. It's more than 60 years after WWII, and more than 55 years since the Korean war. Are you saying that in 10 to 20 years, we still will not have good relations in Iraq?

    Can I borrow your crystal ball please.

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    My point is, this would have occurred anyway. He deserves no credit for that.
    Can I borrow your crystal ball please.

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    You're too easy Cobra...

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    You're too easy Cobra...
    Your extrapolation has no significance.

    I'm saying that we could not predict when we can properly pull out. The time has come, with little difference as to who is president. The claim in the past for a time-line is meaningless, in fact, stupid and coincidental. Never, I repeat never, tell the enemy your game plan.

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    Met goals are the past. Future goals are hard to determine a time frame, yet the democrats want to give a date certain?

    How stupid is that?
    What goals do you think we currently have in the region, and do you think those goals will be met once we leave?

    If we don't ever set a date to depart, how will we ever leave? You and I both know that if a date is not finalized, then it will never get done. That's what deadlines are for.

    If your boss asked you when you expected your project done, would you tell him that it's hard to determine a time frame, so you couldn't give him an exact date?

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    Are you saying that in 10 to 20 years, we still will not have good relations in Iraq?
    I'm saying it's not worth leaving them there 10 to 20 years to find out...

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    Your extrapolation has no significance.

    I'm saying that we could not predict when we can properly pull out. The time has come, with little difference as to who is president. The claim in the past for a time-line is meaningless, in fact, stupid and coincidental. Never, I repeat never, tell the enemy your game plan.
    If it's meaningless and coincidental, why are you so upset about it?
    Why shouldn't we tell our game to the enemy if it's meaningless?

    It's either meaningful and stupid, or meaningless and coincidental. You need to pick a lane.

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    Not to mention that the Commander in Chief has the option of pulling the troops or not. So when he makes a decision he absolutely should get credit for it. Just as much as he gets credit, or should I say, blame, with the mess that we have in Afghanistan.

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    Not to mention that the Commander in Chief has the option of pulling the troops or not. So when he makes a decision he absolutely should get credit for it. Just as much as he gets credit, or should I say, blame, with the mess that we have in Afghanistan.
    So we can have a leftover torn nation like Viet Nam?

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    Had a good laugh this morning whil watching Fox and Friends...Doocy was mentioning the chaotic state of their Iraq political environment when discussing the troops leaving Iraq...

    Is Fox now just realizing things are bad over there?

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