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    What an effing change from the 90s to the last decade. We go from a Republican who was willing to raise taxes to address a budget deficit to a Democrat who was willing to declare the era of big government over to address a budget deficit to this re ed dog and cat . Here, here for pragmatic politicians instead of ideological true believer numbskulls.
    I think 9/11 really brought out the extreme on one end, and that caused the pendulum to swing heavily to the other when that was over.

    At any rate, I have no doubt we're way worse than we were back in the 90's.

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    In a way, in this climate, I can see how Palin could be viewed as a viable candidate.

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    "viable candidate"

    she's not electable, like nearly all the tea bagger candidates in the primaries got blown away

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    I said 'viewed as'... you know, by some part of the population... not necessarily qualified...

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    I'm sorry, I don't go as far back... Maybe Marcus can enlighten us with tales from the time...
    Here, here for Thomas Jefferson and the Revolution of 1800.

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    I think 9/11 really brought out the extreme on one end, and that caused the pendulum to swing heavily to the other when that was over.

    At any rate, I have no doubt we're way worse than we were back in the 90's.
    Balanced budgets, congresses that actually held spending in check, military campaigns that didn't go all the way to Baghdad, no new unaffordable en lements created, and when the biggest worry facing the country was a president who perjured himself about getting sucked off by a big ted brunette? Oh, the days...

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    Balanced budgets, congresses that actually held spending in check, military campaigns that didn't go all the way to Baghdad, no new unaffordable en lements created, and when the biggest worry facing the country was a president who perjured himself about getting sucked off by a big ted brunette? Oh, the days...
    The RINO revisionists and Moral police will tell you otherwise. But you know what's up...

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    Balanced budgets, congresses that actually held spending in check, military campaigns that didn't go all the way to Baghdad, no new unaffordable en lements created, and when the biggest worry facing the country was a president who perjured himself about getting sucked off by a big ted brunette? Oh, the days...
    How can you go on repeating this lie?

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    What an effing change from the 90s to the last decade. We go from a Republican who was willing to raise taxes to address a budget deficit to a Democrat who was willing to declare the era of big government over to address a budget deficit to this re ed dog and cat . Here, here for pragmatic politicians instead of ideological true believer numbskulls.
    The era of big government was over because he borrowed money from lockboxes to pay the debt.

    This is so re ed.

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    What's re ed is making a distinction. Not to mention attempting to excuse the prolifigacy of the Bush administration and the GOP controlled Congress by dismissing the achievement of the prior administration and the GOP congressmen before they went bat crazy to royally this nation.

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    What's re ed is making a distinction. Not to mention attempting to excuse the prolifigacy of the Bush administration and the GOP controlled Congress by dismissing the achievement of the prior administration and the GOP congressmen before they went bat crazy to royally this nation.
    Because i choose not to credit Bill Clinton for something he never accomplished that means I've excused Bush?

    When ever you go on your self pious rants do you ever stop to evaluate people's arguments?

    I don't intend to excuse Bush for his bad policies concerning spending and central planning, and i don't intend by that fact to give Clinton credit for applying a budgetary trick by taking away funds from SS to pay for the deficit. Neither president did , one worse than the other, but i don't want to go back to those days.

    We don't have to choose to go back to Clinton, when we can ask for better. And lets not forget that it was that same administration that also lowered interest rates and created a bubble in the tech industry and sent us into a recession. Bush then turned Keynesian and did his moronic trick of expanding the govt and pursuing the same but to a worse degree.

    Inflating bubbles didn't start with Bush, but with Greenspan and Clinton with the same federal reserve policy.

    So lets not whitewash history, get your facts straight chump.

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    I never thought I'd see the day when lack of education would be regarded as a plus for a political candidate... Weird ing times man

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    I never thought I'd see the day when lack of education would be regarded as a plus for a political candidate... Weird ing times man
    It's part of the whole "us vs. them" complex. It's the best political tool for galvanizing support against the rich (when used by Dems) AND/OR people with a graduate education (when used by GOP). The xenophobia can be mind-boggling, but it's a clever exploitation of the seemingly minority "haves" by the more vocal "have-nots", but that's just IMO. Sarah Palin used it quite effectively when speaking about "REAL America" and "Us folks in the heartland." It was such great rhetoric no one seemed to realize she was from Alaska.

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    How about the money a small populated state was spending for all the FOI requests? The left was relentless against her, and harming the cash flow Alaska had.
    How much did the requests costs and how did that measure up to the total budget of Alaska?

    How about the fact she had little or no time to govern.
    What does that even mean? Are you saying she was too busy flying to the lower 48 and having a book ghost written for her to do her job?

    How about the fact she could seat her Lt. governor rather than wait for elections.
    What other governor has left in the middle of a term for that purpose?

    I'd go on, but if these aren't reason enough, then what's the point?
    On their face, they all seem like disingenuous excuses just to cash in on her celebrity. How are they not?

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    ^I like this guy's post . Keep regulating!

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    ^I like this guy's post . Keep regulating!
    lol cen-cal

    lol state school

    lol cowboys

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    lol palin

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    WC's infatuation with and energetic defense of pitbull is one of his more damning, most ridiculous, self-inflicted silly-tudes.

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    She may be an outsider, but she lacks the backbone to be anything but a shill on the national stage. Her Vice Presidential campaign was a blueprint on how to unconvincingly regurgitate talking points and buzzwords to the appeal of only the most uncritical partisan ear, and I haven't heard anything from her since that convinces me that she is capable of offering any insight into policy that she hasn't studied the night before.

    In reality, all she is is a living, breathing wedge issue for people who watch too much cable news to argue about. She's like abortion, prayer-in-school and reparations personified.
    Excellent take and summary.

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    WC's infatuation with and energetic defense of pitbull is one of his more damning, most ridiculous, self-inflicted silly-tudes.
    I agree.......but you could also say that the constant threads about Palin are one of the more damning, most ridiculous, self-inflicted silly-tudes (whatever the a silly-tude is) for libs as well.

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    In a way, in this climate, I can see how Palin could be viewed as a viable candidate.
    Well you're still talking about her and that's the toughest part. Creating a new image just takes one speech if you can get enough people to listen.

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    Well you're still talking about her and that's the toughest part. Creating a new image just takes one speech if you can get enough people to listen.
    Truth here.

    Hypothetically, Palin could break out as a viable candidate.

    But that would take something just short of a miracle. Getting her off script and out of tired clichés reveals an entirely different and much less digestable politician.

    Obama's strength is surely his speeches, no doubt. But he isnt an unintelligible mess of a man when off script.

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    Maybe she should go on The View and answer hard-hitting questions about Snooky.

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    Maybe she should go on The View and answer hard-hitting questions about Snooky.
    Or hard hitting questions about magazines.

    Oh

    wait.

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    Or hard hitting questions about magazines.

    Oh

    wait.

    Both questions are stupid.

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